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Need advice on EQ

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So 4 weeks out from my next cycle and im adding EQ to the mix. I've done my home work and prep but here is my problem. I am a high aromatizer even at 150mg of test a week EOD injections at 10% body fat my E2 is around 80 TT 1400 FT 450. My question is how long should i take Aromisin before i should expect the EQ to kick in as far as the E1 covertion suppressing my E2. Obviously i wont take the Aromisin at all if i have no sides but im just trying to be prepare. I run 150mg of test as my base never coming off so no need to worry about PCT and i get full labs every month. Cycle is as follows.

20 weeks
1-20 test e 500mg weekly eod injections
1-20 eq 250mg weekly over two injections
12-20 tren ace 200mg weekly ed injections
1-20 Cialis 10mg daily
1-20 Losartan 50mg
Running Ezetimibe currently and continously

Ancillary on hand (as needed)
Aromisin
Cabergolin
P5P
Hole other host of supplements to minimize negative effects from the cycle.

Currently running 4mg Reta and plan to back that off to 2mg to make feeding the cycle a little easier. Any info anyone has would be awesome thanks in advance!

TheIcon's picture

One study. One study. Smile

i too posted bloods and mine were ok surprisenly. The Inflammation from the Guaiacol is what gets me. After 6 weeks its hard for me to inject. Thus why I constantly asked how its made before I purchase.

Drew768's picture

Never ran it but have looked at it. Definitely interested maybe for a latter run. How was the pip with it?

IRONWarrior99's picture

To me the PIP is worth it lol the way I feel and look is on point. Don’t listen to @JohnnyHardGuy . It truly shows people don’t know what they’re talking about lol

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JohnnyHardGuy's picture

So the published peer reviewed data is incorrect?
At increased dose dependency the studies have shown kidney damage.
So is an increase in kidney weight is good or bad? If not, then blast away because it "feels" good.

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IRONWarrior99's picture

I’ve ran it along with taking bloods… no issues to report!

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JohnnyHardGuy's picture

Pardon me, but what is the point of this?
What are your goals here?
Lots of what you stated is very confusing.
So you say you take 4mg Reta weekly & never come off 150mg test e weekly base. You also say you aromatize heavily on just 150mg no matter what.
So your plan now is to kick off at 500 mg test and are wondering when you should add in an AI?
Ok if you get labs every month and already know you are a high converter. Be safe. Take the AI from the start. Your annual bloodwork will tell you if its too much.
Also the EQ will increase appetite and Reta will kill appetite. So what are you trying to accomplish?
As others said also, not enough EQ either.
Please consider as well, EQ plus Tren will put you right on The Anxiety Express.
Not sure what's up here at all. But glad you posted your intentions before embarking on this protocol.

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Drew768's picture

Im 37 had a natural testosterone of 300 started at 150mg in November 2025. I was 230lb 26%body fat. Started working out very intensely5 to 6 days a week and dialed in an extremely clean masive deficit. Using as high protein as i could and test to preserve as much muscle as i could during this time. Im now 180lb as of this morning at 10.9% bf. I can provide body scan reports if you like.

My goal is now that ive got my bf down i want to clean bulk and then go back to my 150mg test weekly.

SteveJ's picture

Nice work! How many calories were you eating while in a deficit?

Drew768's picture

Everyone thinks im lieing but with the reta at 4mg a week test at 150 - 200 mostly 150. I was doing protein shakes with carb powder morning and night with hole foods for lunch (chicken, fish, and deer meat). Calories were around 1500 to 1700. Made working out that hard and frequent an absolute misery with low energy. But after about a month and a half when my clothes didnt fit it just kept me going. Luckily with my high aromatization i am a hyper responder to the test. At 175 my total test levels are well over 2k and my free t was over 600 with a decent shbg.

SteveJ's picture

That's awesome! I believe you. I'm doing the same as you did but 300mg test and 2mg Reta now + 1mg Mots-c started at 196 a couple months ago now I'm 183. It would have been more If I kept my diet clean, but my wife sells baklava she makes at home, so I eat some of it every week.

Drew768's picture

Man the diet really is 75% of it. But I can't blame you if I was in your situation I would have gained weight --. Baklava is my weakness!

JohnnyHardGuy's picture

Ok thank you.
If you are looking to gain lean mass at this point it should not be difficult at all.
You already state you are working out intensely & you already are in a deficit.
Simply dumping the Reta & slowly increasing the quality calories should do the trick by itself.

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Drew768's picture

Awesome thanks for the input I appreciate it!

Montreal's picture

That’s not near enough eq.

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JohnnyHardGuy's picture

No problemo. That is why we are here. Just trying to help.

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Gwcruse's picture

Im going with the crowd on this one. 500mg EQ. Have you ever run Tren higher than 200? Im able to run towards 400mg/week and still feel like I'm in control. Around week 7 though it starts to get loose. But the strength and aesthetics are insane. Solid plan though. You definitely have read through the owners manual.

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Teeeethreee's picture

What is the goal of the cycle to loose bf or gain size?

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Drew768's picture

Clean bulk then use the tren to finish out.

Teeeethreee's picture

Nice get after it my guy

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TeaBody's picture

8 weeks of 1400mg of Tren ace weekly? At this point do you even need EQ?

No way I’m running that high, but let’s said I did. I’d cut it to a third if that and have it at the beginning of the cycle, not the end.

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Drew768's picture

Right? Fixed the post thanks for catching that --

TeaBody's picture

Omg… sooo much better. To readers it used to say “200 Tren daily”… I was like… “dude, at those amounts, what are you asking us advice for”.

That looks a lot better, but I’d still run it at the beginning, might be able to keep the strength from the tren gains with the EQ coming in after.

500mg of EQ as well

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Drew768's picture

Man reading this i cried laughing. I need that thanks man------!

Drew768's picture

Luckily with my high Aromatization i have room to increase it thanks!

Teeeethreee's picture

Cough cough 1,200mg cough cough

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Drew768's picture

Hahaha fixed it

Teeeethreee's picture

lol <3

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Skinnyboy63's picture

No need for AI but if you're a high aromatizer then you might want the EQ the same as your test

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Drew768's picture

So 1:1 or 3:2? I've never crashed my e2 but ive definitely had it through the roof. Everyone says crashing it is worse definitely dont want to do that.

Skinnyboy63's picture

1:1

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frofrank's picture

Its always been my understanding that the AI effects you get with EQ come within the first couple weeks unlike the build up it takes.

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Drew768's picture

Appreciate the info