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First cycle thoughts

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This is my first post and first cycle so take it easy on me.

A little background

I'm 37 years old, with two kids and a wife, so health is important, and I'm not looking to take crazy risks. I'm thinking through my first cycle and wanted to see what everyone thinks of it. I've been taking 150mg of Test E for around 6 months, always injecting 3 times a week, and have my labs drawn every month. Dialed in my diet with working out and have had amazing results recomping over the last 6 months. That being said, I aromatize like crazy at 150mg. My e2 was 74. I went to 220mg once, and my e2 went to 100. I started feeling like garbage, so I dropped back to 150, and it felt good again. At this point, I started reta in an attempt to drop my body fat% to help with aromatization because I would rather not take AI if I don't have to. I've dropped my body fat to around 21% and am going to continue until I'm at or under 18% then start the cycle.

My idea

I'm thinking of running a 20-week low-dose cycle of Test E at 400mg/week and EQ 200mg/week of . Went with the EQ due to my e2 and not wanting to take AI if I don't have to. The numbers are not static. I wanted to titrate the Test up as the EQ kicks in to keep my e2 in check. I've been researching EQ and the sides that come with it have ancillaries on hand if needed. As I said, I'm new to this game and just wanted to know what everyone thought. Thanks in advance for the help!

Killeranatomy's picture

I think you have a solid plan. Obviously you would see so much more as far as visual results if you could get body fat down a bit more but your gonna do what your gonna do. Please remember that eq can cause anxiety and thickening of the blood. Stay up on your lab work and good luck.

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Drew768's picture

I have no problems getting down to 15% or below before starting I'm not in a rush. As far as the anxiety, I can't really control that, but the blood thickening, I'm going to be getting a CBC every three months. I'm currently trying to get my iron on just the high side of normal, so when I need to give blood, it doesn't deplete my iron.

Jockstrap's picture

Running year round cycle ain't healthy. Hope you spend a few hours researching here

irongame427's picture

First cycle is Always test only. You’re gonna need to use an Ai on cycle. You can try and get away with no AI on a TRT dose of test, but not on 400mg of test as someone who aromatizes heavily. Your test levels will likely be 2.5-4 times above the high end of normal so estrogen is going to be very high as well. A first cycle is not the time to try a control it with another steroid, which may or may not work. Not everyone gets a strong AI effect from EQ. Get some arimidex or aromasin.

High bodyfat plays a big role in estrogen conversion. Once you get below 15% you probably won’t have as much of an issue. If the goal of this cycle is bulking/muscle gain you should be below 15% before you start..

Drew768's picture

Thank you for the advice!

BillyBear's picture

I would suggest getting to at least 18% but lower would be better.

I would also consider moving to ed (every day) injection schedule. This will help keep your levels more stable and reduce aromatization.

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Drew768's picture

Awesome thank you for the input!

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