Compounds that run only 4-6 week cycles
I’m looking to add a secondary to my test base to try and get a short cycle in. I have blood work for my urologist for TRT in beginning of April. I figured a 6 week or so cycle with a month of going back to TRT would hopefully be long enough not to mess up my TRT blood work and cause my urologist to do anything.
The pics is mostly all I have, plus taking HGH 3iu daily in the morning. I also have HCG on hand. No caber yet, that’ll be in my next order so I have it in case.
I’ll also be getting superdrol, and hopefully priviron 25 and anadrol 50, but that won’t be till later this week.
I’d like to bulk up some but also try and start getting rid of some of my extra fat. I’m not looking to compete, or anything like that. I just want a decent physique, with some nice muscle tone and strength to back it up, help me feel better about myself & my self esteem, without going overboard and looking like the hulk lol.
Thanks for any advice.
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Stick with your trt dose so you don’t have to worry about messing that up and run 50 mg/day of ment a 4wks. Won’t mess up you bloodwork like everything else would and will provide more anabolism than stacking all that other stuff would in the shortest amount of time possible.
I’ll have to look into picking up some ment to try. One thing I don’t have. I think I’m just going to stick with running test for now, drop back down to TRT dose a month prior to bloods, this way I don’t risk fucking things up on the more important thing -TRT.
MastP, NPP, TrenA, Inj Winny, Dbol, and Var, are the only short-term options here.
"Bulk + Lose fat", and "muscle tone and strength", is the best of all worlds that you're asking for in 4-6 weeks lol.
As far as what would effect bloods the least for your doc... Var and Winny can trash the lipids for a while so avoid those I think.
I've always liked NPP. Gives nice fullness, strength, joint relief, without the water/fat gain. When your proviron arrives that can be added on for strength/well-being and helps negate side effects of 19-nors (npp). Masteron P could be a nice addition in terms of results you want in theory but might tank your HDL, not sure if it's as strong as anavar/winny in that regard but as a non-oral I'd guess that your body would recover faster from it before your bloodwork. To be fair I haven't tried Mast yet (though I have it in my stash) so that's speculation based on reading.
Looks like you have NPP 100 x 3, Mast-P 100 x 2, and will have Proviron 25mg, so could try something like this:
*NPP 350mg (Mo-We-Fri 100mg, Sun 50mg) -- With this dose you probably won't need Caber, just add 100mg P-5-P daily for prolactin control, and it's only 6 weeks not a long deca run.
*Mast-P 350MG (Mo-We-Fri 100mg, Sun 50mg)
*Prov 25mg/daily (42 pills)
*Add on HCG at 500iu/week if you prefer it on cycle, might help keep estrogen ratio normal.
= 6 week cycle using 2 bottles of each compound.
This looks like a great plan that I may try myself, although, where’s the Test, and how much would you suggest. Or is this a Test-less cycle
I had assumed this would be an addition to OP's base test on TRT. That said, if I were to do this myself I'd run probably 300/week, keeps it close to equal with NPP and comes out to an even 1000mg/week total load.
Thanks, Bro!
And yeah, I know what I’m looking for is kind of hard, to bulk & cut in a minimal amount of time. I’m not trying to compete, but it’d be nice to have a nice physique come summer. I think the smartest move is to just run higher test for the next 2 months, then go back to my TRT dose for 3-4 weeks, get bloods done, then I should hopefully have at least a starting foundation after that visit with my urologist to add something in.
Unless someone can give me 100% correct info, it may cause me more anxiety worrying about the bloodwork. Fuck do I wanna try some other stuff though, I just gotta keep reminding myself to be smart.
Literally impossible my guy.
By the other comments it seems like your head is sort of all over the place on this.
I'd recommend taking a step back from the idea of other compounds and sticking with Test for now until you sort out a more defined game plan, ~500 Test is already a cycle on its own and you'll need to drop it down 3-4 weeks before your bloods to not raise eyebrows.
I know it’s impossible, which is why my heads all over the place lmao. Pretty much the problem is just me worrying about messing up my TRT, which is imo more important than running a cycle. I’m struggling with myself to NOT do anything, but curiosity gets to me. It’s still good info, even if I wait until I’m seen less than 3 months, and want to try something on the shorter end. It’ll help me decide what to do. I’m most likely just going to just stick with running test, and go back to my trt dose like you said a month prior
Safest all around option. It just sucks when your head is all over the place, trying to digest all the things I’m reading/being told, and fighting my impatience. Just gotta keep reminding myself that I need to do this safely and be fucking patient lol
I do appreciate your help and advice. Even if not used now, it’s all saved for the future.
Is p-5-p something I need to order or something bought OTC?
I also haven’t tried adding HCG to my current dosing. I’m just running test-e around 450-500mg a week, with the occasional arimidex if my blood pressure gets high. Besides HCG helping with atrophy, what else would HCG benefit me for as far as taking it while taking test? I’m on TRT for when not cycling.
I’m just debating if I wanna try a short cycle, because I’m impatient but also understand that this IS NOT a race. I may just stay with higher test levels, maybe add some dbol in for 4 weeks, if that, just because I don’t want my trt blood work to come back all fucked up. We dialed it in, instead of doing bloods every month this was the first time for 3 months. So I’m assuming if the 3 months comes back fine, I’ll move onto a 6-12 month schedule with my urologist.
Granted this shit is easy to get, but I do like having a legal prescription, as well as getting pharma test with less harsh oil, so I don’t always have to IM.
I’d love to run something, give a little boost, but my next two months might be better off spent figuring out a good, solid meal plan that’s inexpensive and also stock up on my OTC supplements (protein, etc).
Just hard to make this decision, mainly because I don’t wanna waste something because I didn’t run it long enough, or run something and not have enough time to bring bloods back to TRT range.
I pretty much took advantage of metas sale to get a little bit of everything - enough to at least try it, and enough to try it for a cycle to see if I’d like it.
P5P is an off the shelf vitamin you can grab from most drug stores or online vitamin vendors. Amazon will have it to you in a day or 2.
Yeah I found it on Amazon. I’ll be getting it shortly.
I know others take other OTC supplements that benefit and/or help prevent/control side effects from some compounds. Have any suggestions on anything that should be taken regularly or while running certain cycles?
I would still have caber for a backup. You never know how p5p may work for you and don't want to be caught with your pants down on a 19nor run without caber, which is a sure thing to reduce prolactin.
Appreciate that @Makwa. I absolutely plan on having caber on hand when the time comes to trying 19-nors. I much rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. I definitely prefer to be preventive.
I was just curious, besides p5p, what other supplements/vitamins people take to help with liver health and other things? I’ve seen quite a few thrown around, but not enough to really get an idea of things I could be taking daily or things id only take when using certain compounds.
I’m incorporating regular vitamins, fiber for helping with blood sugar/cholesterol and another, well kind of embarrassing lol side effect of a completely different medication I’m on, have p5p coming, and just wondering what else could be used or needed that would help me. I’ve heard people using milk thistle and other things, so any help is appreciated.
Thanks guys
J
Milk thistle as you mentioned. Turmeric, tudca and dandelion root are also used for helping out the liver. For cholesterol a good omega-3 fish oil supplement and red yeast rice have been shown to be effective.