Adex and dosage
So I already know I convert to estro at a relatively high rate. I’m technically running my 2nd test only cycle, to see what my limit is. I’ve been running between 6-800mg a week for the last month. Overall I feel great. My only side effects are I get high blood pressure. I usually take an adex and it’s enough. Some days, one doesn’t cut it.
Has anyone else ever needed more than one a day to balance out? Should I just continue with the adex, or could they possibly be underdosed? I’m thinking of getting aromasin and letrozole (sp?) and see if either of those work better. Little nervous of taken letrozole and nuking my entire system.
Should I just try aromasin first since it’s a suicide inhibitor, so no rebound, and is almost as effective as letrozole? I know adex is the weakest of the 3. I’m just not sure if mine are underdosed or my estro levels are just high because I aromatize easily.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks
J
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What symptoms other than your high PB are you having ? And what is your BP to get an accurate reading you should be seated relaxed and take 3 reading 5 minutes apart and take the average.
My BP runs high and I take 5mg ramipril daily and donate blood every 12 weeks to combat it.
Adex may well lower your BP but it will also caused more side affects especially if you don’t actually have high oestrogen levels.
Then there’s dose of adex to consider as there’s no set amount for a man using steroids. It’s trial and error and without blood work it will be hard to determine the dose you need if you need it at all. Adex is a powerful drug and should only be used as a last resort.
I can run 2 gram of test a week and not need adex but if I run over 600mg of deca or a moderate dose of any 19 nor I will have to use it .
Even when I do use it I would be on a heavy blast and running high dose test plus NPP or tren or maybe deca , I would still only need 0.5 mg ( half a pill) every other day .
Best way to see if you need adex , watch titanic if your knocking one out into tissues over Kate winslet your probably ok but if your crying into them tissues saying nooooo jack you might have issues ….. the last bit I’m joking btw
I also have Nolvadex. I heard some people use it for anti estro, but I have no idea how effective it is compared to the actual ai inhibitors. Thoughts anyone?
When I was researching a.i.'s, I liked the way aromasin looked on paper. That's all I've ever used. I've never gone over 500mg a week of test. I also easily aromatize. I get a lump at 100mg of test a week. I've never needed more than 50mg a week.
Edit: Good job on getting your handle back.
That’s the way I’m looking on paper too. Adex is nice, but it’s the weakest one. You also have to continually take it or you rebound. Aromasin is a suicide inhibitor, so no rebound. I also don’t see myself running test as high as I have in the last few weeks again. I just wanted to see how I’d react, but I don’t think it’s necessary to run that much. I’ve been lowering my test dosage, but my main thing is has anyone else ever needed more than 1mg adex a day? I’m trying to figure out if that’s not something unusual and has been done, or if it’s a possibility of my adex being underdosed.
And thanks. I’m happy I got it back. Apparently I didn’t get banned for my comments. It was because when I woke up this morning, I came on the site and was logged out, which was very unusual. My phone has my password saved, but the user name is my email. I didn’t realize it was asking for a user name, not email, and couldn’t get in my account & the password links weren’t working. I thought I was banned at that point, so I made another account, found out I wasn’t banned, then figured out why I wasn’t able to get in my real account. Unfortunately that triggered a ban, because you can’t have multiple accounts. @Greg was still kind enough after we talked to restore my account, which I can’t be more appreciative of.
I've seen adex dosages all over the place. .5mg a day, .5mg every other day, .5mg every 3 days, 1mg a day etc.,etc. There's really no way to know if it's underdosed without testing the product or getting a blood test. Plus, you seem like you feel it's doing something, correct? I'd be interested in another high estro converter, that uses/used adex, commenting.
The comments you made definitely didn't get you banned. You have to say some pretty stupid shit to get banned. Lol. And I don't recall ever seeing anyone take more than 1mg a day.
You should be able to go into your browser passwords and add your email as the username. That way all the information will be automatically filled in.
Oh and thanks for the heads up about updating the auto fills. I know how to do all that (I appreciate you telling me, I’ve been a computer tech for 25 years). It was right as I woke up, and I didn’t realize it was asking for user name. Just a simple mistake on my end. In the little over 3 months I’ve been here, I don’t think I’ve ever had to re login. That’s why I was caught so off guard and thought I was banned.
I get logged out sometimes. I think it happens when they update the site.
I think the only way to know if it’s underdosed is to actually get it tested. I don’t have bloods from taking known correct dosage adex. That’s why I was wondering if anyone else has had to take more than 1mg a day.
It definitely does something. So it’s one of two things. Underdosed, which is okay, because I have a shitload of them so if I have to take 2, it’s fine. Or, it’s nothing to worry about, other high estro converters have used more than 1 a day.
I still think I’m going to pick up aromasin just to compare. Maybe it’ll work better for me, or be able to use both. Adex to keep in check, and aromasin for out breaks. I just rather be safe than sorry. I also know I need caber, but I have time for that. It’ll be a little while till I can run a 19nor.
Well there's another post on this forum of a guy taking 1mg arimidex everyday so he's taking 7mg adex a week. Arimidex isn't weak. But yeah you are supposed to take it on a schedule to keep them levels checked and balanced but I myself wouldn't take 1mg daily. If it was me I would lower my test dose and take .5 every three days for cpl weeks and see where I'm at on my test. You have to get a blood test to be sure
Also, may I ask what your reasoning is that you wouldn’t take 1mg daily and only .5mg every few days? Strictly out of curiosity. Makwa said adex is something to be taken consistently, which makes sense, because of the estro rebound.
I’m sure I’ll probably end up with some aromasin just to have on hand. Lower my test dose and shouldn’t have too much problems. I may not need the aromasin, adex may be more than enough, however I rather have it on hand if I need it than need it and not have it.
I’m honestly wondering if they’re just a bit underdosed. No on me else (yet) has said they’re taking more than 1mg a day. It could also be now that I think of it, not taking it consistently around the same time, so I’m getting estro rebound on top of already high estro, causing me to need two. Who knows.
This is another reason I fought so hard to keep my account. The things I learn here are great. I have time to prepare and research, and I want to do this as safely as possible, with the correct things on hand for possible side effects. I’d like to be prepared.
I wouldn't take 1mg daily because I would actually be in pain.. when I run test higher than 500 which I don't do anymore and won't again I could take .5 every other day and my levels were almost perfect
I’ve already been lowering my dose. I’m a bit concerned when the time comes, if I stack something that also aromitizes, that my estro will be high.
I can get blood work - but all I’ll really be able to gather from that is my estro is high, which I already know. I don’t know how to test what AI would work better for me, if needed.
So adex has to be taken routinely. Which I’ve been doing. Usually one a day but I’ve had days where I needed a 2nd at the end of the day. Adex can also cause estro rebound. Those reasons are making me wonder if aromasin may be better, as it’s a suicide inhibitor, no rebound, and a bit stronger than adex. I know adex isn’t weak, but out of the 3, it’s the weakest (from the research I’ve gathered anyway, it’s good for blocking 60% but once it wears off, it rebounds). Being that I’m a high aromatizer, maybe the aromasin may work better. I may get it to try it, idk.
If you were to do bloods to try and figure out if the adex is underdosed or to find out something else works better, without a baseline of prior bloods taking AIs, how could I do it?
How many milligrams adex are you taking daily. You said one sometimes 2 but how many total milligrams? Are you experiencing nipple sensitivity? The high BP is a side effect of the test
The adex I have is supposed to be dosed at 1mg. I don’t have a way to verify if it’s accurately dosed. I’ve had days I’ve had to take two. I thought the high BP was from running test high, and converting to a high estro. Taking adex within 15 minutes of me having high blood pressure, and I’m perfectly fine. So I really can’t accurately answer that question, due to not knowing the exact dosage of the adex.
That arimidex cannot be 1mg ain't no fucking way go get a blood test asap.. how do you feel otherwise. 2mgs arimidex for days and my joints would be screaming. 1mg everyday for days my joints would be fucking killing me
Honestly, besides when my blood pressure is up, I feel better than I have in a long time. If BP goes up, I take one and I’m good. I don’t take 2 at once, mainly the days I take one really early for work, I may need one at night time. I have noticed a bit since lowering test dose, one a day has been good. I was pushing the limits with test, so my guess is because I was on such an unnecessarily high dose.
I know bloods are important. Being that I’m only running test, and already know I aromitize easily, and when I have high BP, adex fixes it, which makes me think it’s estro related. What else could it be? What could I learn from a blood test, that has these symptoms and is taken care of with adex?
It’s hard for me to get bloods done at the lab. I’d have to drive over an hour away to get actual labs, besides mail in ones. I have zero other sides from running test high besides oily skin and occasionally high BP, which I’ve noticed doesn’t really happen on lower doses.
I think my best bet is to spend a few bucks on a mail test. Yes I know there not as accurate but it’s accurate enough to help me with this. Then I can at least get an idea of if it is definitely high estro, or something else. How long would you wait from taking a adex should I wait before taking blood? Also going to pick up some aromasin just to have on hand, if I don’t need it, that’s fine. I rather have it and not need it than vice versa.
If you've lowered your test dose, I would stick with 1mg a day for a little while. If your going to use aromasin, I wouldn't use anything else with it.
Yeah I kind of figured that to prevent estro rebound.
I was running the test high for a few weeks. I about doubled what I ran the first time, to see how I feel. I was running between 600-800mg a week. Basically every other day, I was doing .5ml of test-e 300. Occasionally I’d skip when I felt it too high.
Normally people say .5mg-1mg a day. Sometimes I need 2. Idk if that’s “normal” because I’m assuming my estro levels are pretty high, since I already know I aromitize a little heavy. My adex could also be underdosed. That’s what I’m trying to figure out.
Should I just stay with the 1-2 adex a day? It works, I feel fine after taking them, but the dosage had me concerned. Or would I be better off with aromasin, a suicide inhibitor to avoid that rebound? Letro scares me a bit, as i don’t want to accidentally nuke myself.
Something is seriously not normal here mate. I know alof of big guys running grams of test and nobody is using 1mg of adex daily even with 3+grams/wk of test. The amount you are taking is what is prescribed for breast cancer patients to essentially zero out their estro production. My first assumption would be your adex is bunk because 1mg/d with the amount of test you are taking is really crazy. I would seriously consider getting some bloodwork done to help with solving this.
If you actually need that much adex for just a little bit of test, then you really should not be running test any higher than a low dose TRT. As a matter of fact, you shouldn't be running any aromatizable AAS. I would be designing cycles around using a very low test base with non-aromatizing steroids making up the bulk of stack like primo, dhb, EQ, mast. You need to go heavy on the DHT's. I wouldn't mess with 19nors either. Test isn't your cup of tea if you actually aromatize to that high of a rate which frankly is unbelievable. You could be that 1 in a million, so you really need bloodwork to see if your AI is bunk or you are one of those special 1%.
Cranking that much adex is also not good for your lipids and can severely suppress your IGf production. If you really want to run test beyond a TRT dose and are a high aromatizer then you need to switch to letro which is the strongest AI out there. First things first though, we need to figure why you need to take so much damm adex. Wtih that dose of test most normal people would be dosing it 0.25mg 2x.wk and high aromatizers would be closer to 0.5mg 2x/wk to give you a frame of reference.
Thank you @Makwa. I’m going to get some bloods taken if this keeps happening. I’ve lowered my test dose to a point where I didn’t need it before. However I’m going to get bloods done when I feel like I have high estro, and again after taken adex to see if it’s doing anything. At least that will tell me if it’s me, or the adex is underdosed. I also have aromasin coming to see if that may be a better fit for me.
Really the only way to see how adex is affecting you is to be on a consistent dose for a good week or two and see where your estro lands with that dose vs test amount.
Once you start adex you need to continually take it on a consistent basis. This isn't a pop one every once in a while when my nips get itchy type of drug. How much are you taking and what is your dosing schedule?
@Makwa my response to your comment is right above. Idk why it didn’t respond in this thread.