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Waiting On Bloods

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Hello all. I have recently been having some trouble. I have gotten bloods and will see the results on friday but was going to post this until then.
I cant tell if ive really crashed my Estrogen or if its too high. I have anxiety, I wake up around 2 am and have LOTS of trouble getting back to sleep. My sex drive is good so im guessing thats from the test. I maintain an erection well. but im having symptons of anxiety, moodiness, appetite a little lower than usual, trouble concentrating, forgetting stuff, THIRSTY all the time. acne on my back and sides, not wanting to hit the gym and when i do go, i want to leave after like 2 movements. Feeling a little depressed and hopeless. Have I gotten it to LOW or is it too HIGH? again, im waiting on bloods till friday. Currently on 200 mgs test cyp a week. Since its only 200 I may have crashed out but my sex drive is still crazy high. I took .5 adex yesterday after i did 100 mgs test cyp. hit the gym and it was GREAT. tried sleeping last night and it was crap. now today I fell all these symptoms.

JakeKO's picture

@papa.smurf0311

So how’re you feeling today? Any better?

papa.smurf0311's picture

Oh man bro I feel SOOOO much better. I know for a fact I got my estrogen too low. its back up more now and I feel way better.

Claudezilla's picture

You only pin once a week? And since not working out regularly are you just taking the test as TrT? Because 200mg is pretty damn high for a TrT dose most actual TrT doses are like 89-100 mg a week in 2 shots I believe

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papa.smurf0311's picture

I pin twice a week.

papa.smurf0311's picture

It is a little difficult sometimes to tell if you E2 is high or low. I THOUGHT it was high so i dosed adex and next day felt like trash. Right then and there I knew that I got it too low. Today is MUCH better. its back up and I feel great.

papa.smurf0311's picture

Yep. they are normal fasted. 110 fasted and 170 after a big meal.

JakeKO's picture

Are you drinking any energy drinks or pre workout carb drinks?

papa.smurf0311's picture

I drink coffee in the morning and a pre workout before training. yesterday I felt fine but today idk.

JakeKO's picture

How late in the day do you train?? Watch those pre workout drinks. They always give me anxiety, and wire me out. I fucking hate them Even Red Bull gives me that shitty feeling, unless it’s mixed with vodka. I do drink coffee, a good amount of it. If I drink it too fast, that uncomfortable feeling kicks in. Drop the pre workout drink and see how you feel tomorrow.
I gave some other guy the same advice a few months back and he listened. He felt better the following day. Good luck!

papa.smurf0311's picture

yea i think my e2 may be low. i went to work out and just didnt want to be there. i still trained but it was total ass. unlike yesterday. Hopefully thats all it is and ill balance back out. Ill take tomorrow off and stay away from the caffeine and see how I feel.

JakeKO's picture

Bro, I don’t feel like being at the gym just about every other day. Meanwhile, my wife can’t wait to get there. Everyone is different, Gear doesn’t necessarily make you wanna workout, but will definitely make you feel shitty if you don’t.

papa.smurf0311's picture

Yep absolutely. I feel MUCH better today. I know now that I got my E2 too low. its back up now and I feel great.

press1's picture

I think you need to stop focusing on how you are feeling so much and get back into hitting the gym regularly, not training regularly will make your anxiety/depression increase just in itself. I know when I have not trained for 3 days in a row I begin to feel like this if I have an injury for example but am still running gear. Then once I am back into the routine again of say training EOD or having 2 rest days then training I feel great again.

JakeKO's picture

We started working out on Saturday’s because taking the whole weekend off had me mentally bouncing off of walls by Sunday. I can’t even say it’s mental, because I physically bounce back and forth from lethargic to hyper all Sunday. Sundays have been much better since I started working out on Saturday

papa.smurf0311's picture

I train Monday, Tuesday and take Wednesday off. then train thursday and friday. and then sleep in a little on saturday and train legs in the morning after high carb meal. then sunday I take off. sometimes Ill take the whole weekend off. it all depends

papa.smurf0311's picture

that makes sense because its been weeks since i was in the gym.

JakeKO's picture

Oh man, I’d be going crazy running gear and not working out. If you’re not going to work out regularly, you should cut your dose down to about.50 mg per week, if that. Get your ass to the gym, Bro! WTF? You’re gonna get fat like that. I don’t even care if you ride the olymptical for twenty minutes, just do something. My bet is the ..5 adex didn’t crash your estrogen, but can make you feel a little shitty the next day. I can always tell when I take one. Good luck with the bloods, and do some damn push-ups or something when you get anxious.

papa.smurf0311's picture

i feel it may be too low. im tired but cant sleep, appetite not so good. cloudy head ect.

Makwa's picture

Really just throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks until you get the bloodwork back. .5mg is alot of adex for only 200mg of test though. What I really think you need to do is dial in your test dose so that you don't need an AI that way all your hormones are in balance.

papa.smurf0311's picture

yea I thought my e2 was high but i guess it wasnt. maybe i got it too low. feeling tired but having trouble sleeping, appetite isnt like it was yesterday, little anxiety seems like. cloudy head. forgetfulness