posted Sun, 10/09/2016 - 11:17
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The role of testosterone in a cycle
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I've been cycling more frequently and learning alot from this awesome site and I wanted some feedback on what you guys think about this:
After cycling I found what works for my body best and I found that keeping my test levels stable works best for me - meaning if I keep my test at the same level they would be if I was not on cycle my sex drive is at its highest. If I add in too much test-p I end up with sexual disfunction. If I don't add any test I end up with low sex drive.
I only run nandrolone or boldenone cycles...shorter esters..
Everytime I post how much test I run I catch so much shit so I wanted to ask what you guys think
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I think its always best to use testosterone as your base in most cycles is because testosterone provides a complete spectrum of effect and you can do testosterone up to 2 grams before reaching the maximum that can be achieved. You cannot do that with Dianabol, Anadrol, oxandrolone, Primobolan, trenbolone.... Most of the other steroids other than testosterone can give you unique characteristics that you cannot get with testosterone alone even at 2 grams. So when you stack Test with other steroids you can maximize gains and get other additional effects.
500 mg to 600 mg of test is my sweet spot. That is all I ever need. Find your sweet spot.
could you post your blood work from during your cycle at these doses? I would lIke to see what your prolactin, estrogen, cbc and metabolic panel looks like.
everyone is different so it's possible something so irregular would work for you. personally I would want to see what a full blood panel yields though before making up my mind about it
BandoleroWorking on getting that done... But after reading on other articles there's other people that have a similar response. They raise their test dose too high and while their libido is high they can't perform well or they get erectile dysfunction. When they back it down they get into a sweet spot. That sounds exactly like me I just run lower doses across the board
it's possible. estrogen can play role is sexual issues. so I'm wondering if these people and or you could be having elevated estrogen and that's adding to the issues.
again though, it's possible you just happen to be an exception.
BandoleroI hear you... I've been cycling for a while tho and I always have ancillaries on hand and I keep doses on everything on the lower end since I'm constantly trying to cut. Blood work is the only way to tell
for sure! blood work and diet are the two factors that I see overlooked the most around here.
For me:
Trt 200mg pw
Cycle 375-750mg pw
BandoleroWhat are you running exactly?
On trt I do 200mg once per week of test c. I'm two weeks in a cycle so currently running 500mg pw (250 mon/thu)
Testrogen_PropC...Optimal would be being natural of course, but second most optimal would be running TRT test in "normal" levels obviously. The sexual dysfunction from raising test is most often from excess estrogen. Which is why we run A.I.'s on cycle (and some including me also run it on TRT depending on bloodwork)
BandoleroI always have letro on hand and use small amounts on anything that can aromatise.
Just so everyone can see I usually will run around 300 of NPP a week with about 50mg of test-p a week. .5mg of letro twice a week. Over the years every single time I try to push the test dose over 150 a week I get sexual dysfunction. I can't explain it and I know it sounds crazy but it is happening plain and simple..... I guess I'm wondering if there's anything wrong with running my test as low as I am... I'm hungrier for the vajay and I can kill it better and more consistently...
Testrogen_PropC...I must say 50mg a week is pretty low. How do you disperse it throughout the week? The reason I ask is because prop should really be adimistered EOD at the longest. But hey as long as you feel great on a low dose there's nothing wrong with that whatsoever. I'm in the "less is more" camp with gear. What does 50mg of prop a week get your test levels to on bloodwork if you don't mind me asking?
BandoleroSure I hit 1 cc every other day. Comes out to about 80mg of NPP and about 15 of test prop right now. When I first got my pack I was trying to run it around equal doses but I keep hitting that same wall again and I go with how I feel. I listen to my body alot and I get in the habit of backing off the test-p. Then I start thinking about my ex-girlfriends.
I have not gotten blood work done and I should
Testrogen_PropC...That's good that you're getting it in EOD. I would definitely get bloodwork done just incase tho as there could be some health issues if your test is below the normal range. And if you end up needing to go up to 100mg a week or so, I think Arimidex or Aromasin should keep you from having any E.D. issues.
I use Letrozole more as a tool to get rid of a gyno flare (to wipe out all estrogen) than an A.I. I find Arimidex or Aromasin much better to use on a week to week basis, just something to consider.
BandoleroI need to just drag myself and get the bloodwork done. Thanks for your feed back much needed
Testrogen_PropC...Anytime brother glad I could help.
great thread and answers