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Mid cycle bloods, what day to get them done?

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Booked in for mid cycle bloods

When is the best time to get them done?

I'm running 500mg test Sunday and Wednesday
I did Androl 30mg ED for 4 weeks
I'm 5 weeks in with 1mg arimadex EOD from the start
planning for 12 maybe 14 weeks depending on how things are going at 12 weeks

My question
Should the bloods be taken on an non arimadex day or a non testosterone day, does it matter?

I've requested the 3 types of testosterone test
Estradol/estrogen test
And 18 general health check, liver values, red and white blood values etc. are there any "must haves"
or anything I have missed

I'll be posting the results here and looking for advice on how to adjust my AI's

42 years old
92 kg
195 Height
17-18 % BF
5000 to 5500 cals a day, low sugar, 30 70 carb to protein ratio

Thanks all

Dacky's picture

It doesn't matter what day of the week you get there tests done. If I'm running a 12 week cycle I normally get mine done week 5. I assume you're running test e or c at 500mg per week. Not sure what three different testosterone tests you're getting done but total test and free test is all you really need. Estradiol (E2) is the estro number you're interested in. You could do LH and FSH numbers (to checked they're tanked which they should be) but it's not critical. Full blood count, LFT, renal (including electrolytes) and lipids. Can't think of anything else.

At 1mg adex EOD I would expect your estro to be very low or tanked. Any reason you've been running this so high since day 1?

thewire's picture

Thanks dacky, much appreciated
Yeah it's test e

This is my second cycle. My 1st was a try out
I ran 0.5 adex eod on the last one and got gyno symptoms week 6, so then I was into nolva.
I hit a plateau week 8 and couldn't gain anymore.
I ate and trained like crazy but nothing budged.
Thought I would avoid gyno and nolva altogether if I upped the Ai

Infact i take 1.0 every second time I take it so to speak
So the dose looks more like 0.5 / 1.0 / 0.5 / 1.0 and so on
I'm not sure what affect it will have but all I know is that last time 0.5 was not enough.
Guess the bloods will tell the tale

true grit's picture

.5 adex eod is still a healthy dose. Might have been bunk. Was it pharma or research chem?
When you say gyno symptoms, what do you mean? I've seen a lot of complaints about gyno symotoms over the years that were just psychosomatic. I even tend to get figity about itchy nips, checking for lumps, etc. All in my head.

Dacky's picture

Let's look at the blood work and go from there. I am surprised by your experience but it does happen. Some users aromatise very heavily. What were your gyno symptoms by the way? Also Just checking that you used pharma adex on the last cycle and that your are for this one?

As to your other point of not being able to grow after 8 weeks - low estro can stop gains in their place and it's possible you crashed yours? So you're doing the right thing checking bloods this time. Removes the guess work. All that said perhaps this was diet related so can you lay out our diet? Calories, macros, fluids and how you plan to adjust as you progress.

thewire's picture

Last time it was itchy nipples they then went sore / sensitive, maybe I'm just paranoid but after the water drained out of my muscles when the cycle it looked like I had developed slight oblong lumps starting from the nipple and pointing up toward the arm pit.
I don't know what went wrong last time
The adex was edit labs
I ran the same again this time although I'll pick up a different brand from my supplier today so I'll switch over to them after the bloods

My diet is planned by my dietist, it's complicated for me as I can't hack any kind of cereal no wheat, oats or nothing. I also have to watch my sugar, even in fruit and milk. If I od my insulin spikes excessively and all sorts of problems kick off.
I have a Base line of 5000 calories and as the cycle progressess I get more hungry and eat more on top of what I already eat, so more sweet potatoes more chicken, rice, beef, fish, etc I don't know what the count is but I'm eating every 2 to 3 hours every day at over 1000 cals every meal finishing with a high call shake before bed so I figure it's enough
It will take me a few hours to lay it all out
Haven't got time to do that just now!

tonytulo's picture

edited.read the rules .

Dacky's picture

I'm also out of time now but would like to know ore about your diet when you can. Sounds lien you eat mainly whole foods which is good. Keen to know how many grams of protein, carbs and fats you're cosmunint and to confirm that protein powders/bars are kept to a minimum or not used?

Edit out the brand name before you get docked points as this is not allowed in the open forums. I will say this that brand is junk so could be it had no anastrazole in it at all. Always buy pharma grade ancillaries as when you need these to work you really need them. Get bloods drawn and dose from there.

thewire's picture

Thanks bro, I'll post the details soon. Looks like I can't edit a post once replied to..