+ 6 Test / Tren / EQ Cycle.....RIP AEROK1025---PLEASE READ!!!
I just started a very strong 16 week Test/Tren/EQ cycle. I am using ##'s gear, and I'll be sharing my progress throughout the cycle. I can't wait to see how much of a transformation I can make out of this cycle. Hope to get some encouragements/suggestions from you guys.
I'm thinking of adding HGH/Censored/Peptides for my next cycle. I have tried a few different bulking cycles before, but it seems like I can never get that "muscle monster" look. I would like to blast my upper body and have that extreme bodybuilder mass on me - if this cycle doesn't transform my body too much, I'll definitely be looking into HGH.
Thank you for reading and look forward to see what you guys post!
Week 0 Stats
5'7"
181.0 lbs
14% BF
Cycle Info
TestE 250mg /EOD
TrenE 200mg /EOD
EQ 200mg /EOD
w. AIs as needed
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THE GENTLEMAN WHO POSTED THIS BLOG IS DEAD......
READ THE COMMENTS BELOW...START AT THE BEGINNING--ALL THE WAY DOWN, AND READ THEM.
FINISH WITH THE LAST COMMENT.
THIS IS WHY I TRY TO TELL YOU GUYS TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
See link below.
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It's not mentioned in this thread but to the members who were around at the time it's obvious. He was toying around with insulin. He sought the guidance of one of our resident guru's (Tread-m) and although he was discouraged from using it, he went ahead anyway. What he said in the open and why was said behind closed doors were two different things apparently. So in one hand you're right, he aid he wasn't going that route. Then he said he was. Then he passed away suddenly. An otherwise healthy 22 year old with no health issues suddenly dies. I'm no nuclear physicist but it's pretty obvious
why was he running long esters eod?
man that's a strong dose, you should get great results with that cycle, just becareful and be sure to keep all your cleansers going through your cycle, need to keep your kidneys and liver healthy and good. unless you have someone knows what they are doing you should stay away from insulin, the benefits are great but the side effects are to dangerous. I would give it more time to consider something like that.
The death of any young man like this is tragic. I have done exactly this cycle with 100 mg var ED but at 250 lbs. In fact, I have a few buddies that have done this cycle too. We're all very much alive an kicking. How can any of us know if the roids killed him? This is a serious cycle, certainly, but, by no means excessive. At 5' 7" and 181 the guy is not a mass monster but not scrawny either. I just don't think the take away here is that that particular stack is bad or dosages out of control. I do bloods every three weeks and that combo has not been a problem for me anyway . . .
I'll stick to RIP brother and keep the guessing to myself. With just the posted data there's no point in more.
One thing to learn from this - get healt checkups every few months. Again, don't know if his would have shown, but some stuff does (high RBC (kills lots), screwed lipids, ....).
Hmmm...this is a sad story. All i can say is there is no way the roids caused it. Unless they were contaminated with a virus or contaminant or he did a completely bad injection. Ive used 3x this dosage and ive been on roids for the past 3 yrs straight, mind you at moderate dosages as im 39 and usi g it mainly for hrt. Ive been cyclying since i was 18 so for 21 yrs now and NEVER had any serious health effects. I get my liver, kidneys, cbc count, ast,alt, cholesterol, everything checked every 6 months and along with milk thistle, a good detox once a yr, lots of anti oxidants one can use roids as long as i have safely. So....yes this is sad but i think he had other underlying health conditions prior to his use but it culd have also been anaphylactic shock from bad gear as well. Only a coroners report will tell. Rip
Wow, either way this sucks. . . .Those doses are not insane IMO but to a much larger mass. When it comes to drugs, it's body weight Vs. the drug. A 225 can take much more that a dude @ 180.
I ran 1/2 of this for 8 weeks. I felt like hell by the end of week seven. I barely made it to 8 weeks without being able to sleep for more than 4-5 hours a night.
Uggggh
R.I.P. Brother in Iron
your123manAt the end of the day, no one knows the cause of death here and is stipulating.
TestE 250mg /EOD
TrenE 200mg /EOD
EQ 200mg /EOD
So, 875 test/700 tren/700 eq. Honestly, that is still a relatively mild blast when you look at ANYONE who competes. Unless he had health complications already, then this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with his sudden passing, and is not a crazy blast by any means.
The misuse of slin is an obvious and easy understanding, but we don't even know if he was actually using it or what the cause of death is.
However, all of us sitting here blaming the anabolics as to the reason for his passing is absolutely crazy. We all sound like "moms against steroids" who blame steroids on their son committing suicide, not the fact that he had previous mental disorders including depression and didn't take care of himself at all, which was exaggerated by the hormones he was slamming.
The moral of this is to be fucking careful, understand what you are doing. Not to sit here and blame the steroids for his passing. This is why steroids have a bad name in the states, because people spit "bro science" without any actual knowledge of what happened.
Makes sense that you've got a Big Mac for an avatar... These are LONG ESTERS. Every other day when he pinned another 650mg of gear, it was compounding the amount of steroids that were still in his system. Within a few weeks he had multiple grams of Test/Tren/Eq in his body. And he kept adding to it, day-after-day. At a certain point it became toxic. He didn't know what he was doing and he POISONED HIMSELF. Whether he also used insulin (about which I know nothing) is kind of beside the point.
I'm a newbie. I don't know much. And this is exactly why I don't do anything without much research and advice from those who know. Rest In Peace, brother.
your123manSo he died because he was "toxic"? Thanks coroner. Also, please find me one case. JUST ONE. Where a cause of death was ruled due to steroid abuse. Protip: you wont.
You will also never find a case of anyone who officially died from AIDS. The cause of death is always listed as pneumonia or some other secondary infection that results from the destruction of the immune system.
As far as being "toxic", too much of any substance can be dangerous and/or fatal to the human body. Water can be toxic if you drink too much of it. In this case, he was pumping multiple grams of powerful chemicals into his body every two days. Those chemicals had extended half-lives, which means that each additional injection increased the amount of tren/test/Eq in his body. Eventually (and not very long into his cycle) it killed him.
I don't pretend to be a doctor or to be some kind of expert, but the dangers of this cycle are obvious to anyone capable of basic arithmetic. Everyone on this board uses steroids of their own free will, but to suggest that there isn't a real danger of harming ourselves when we don't do the proper research is either ignorance or willful self-delusion.
aynazppr75Thats not the dosages who were too high that's the lenght of this cycle, 16 weeks are by far too much for a test/tren cycle. And I really dont think he's died because of this cycle
This was hard to read. I agree the doses were far to high. But I think the "playing with insulin and not exactly knowing what your doing" aspect made this a tragedy. His health would have taken a toll from the gear but the extreme nature of playing with insulin is what put it all over the edge. Sucks to hear either way. R.I.P. brother!
skaityAre you kind of crazy? You think about a cycle with TestE 250mg /EOD
TrenE 200mg /EOD
EQ 200mg /EOD.
I have two friends who died this year because they used similar cycle. But good luck!
Wow I read this about a year ago and re-read this today... Test E and Tren E??!?! EOD? That shit built up in his system.. You'd have to be retarded not to know how he died.. better yet.. it's just a death-imposing cycle, obviously... 200mg tren e eod would hit at full force on week 3 or 4 equating at... 2400mg's of tren? to somebody unfamiliar and only 180 lbs? LOL... No offense but stupid is as stupid does...
Mistakes happen, they do kill.
That's hard core dude!
Yeah, I'm sure that's what his mother/father/siblings/wife or girlfriend were saying at the funeral. "He may be dead, but he sure was hard core."
I hope you're being ironic, because if not, you're a fucking moron.
Huh. I've surpassed these amounts in a cycle several times over before and while the sides were VERY unpleasant I wasn't knocking on death's door either. I looked like death warmed over but my panels were actually pretty decent. That's more tren E than I would feel comfortable doing though (that shit is side effects in a bottle for me), and I'll be damned if I touch insulin during a cycle like that. That may have been what tipped the scales for him if he was indeed using slin. Other than that, it's not the most outrageous cycle I've seen by far so I'm kind of surprised he passed away.
RIP brother, hopefully you're in a better place.
kurt78Its a sad story and much respects to the family..... But no one really knows what exactly killed him and its unfair to blame Trenbolone like i've seen some comments. For one thing, abusing any drug of any kind can harm or even kill you. He obviously didn't know what he was doing injecting long esters every other day and then to read he wanted to use insulin is the biggest red flag! If I was to guess, it would be that he ended up trying insulin not knowing what he was doing and died. But then I would be making unfair judgements towards insulin. We all don't know how he passed and yes his whole cycle looked bad from the get go. So I think the best thing we can get from this story is that we should all get educated on Anabolic Steroids; what they do to our body, proper doses, and most of all... "Ask Questions".
My boss always used to say "There is no such thing as a bad question!" And thats so true. Maybe stupid sounding to veterans, but to him its an honest question because of the lack of experience. If he would of asked any of us about what he was running and for our input, we all would have advised him that he was way off and needed to change his plan. That question (if he could and would have asked) could have maybe saved his life if that is indeed what caused his death.
So I guess what I'm getting at is instead of blaming insulin or trenbolone or anything else for his death. Lets take from this that "information" is so important with steroids and we should be asking questions and helping eachother. And then maybe we all can avoid and even help others to avoid making a bad decision that could ultimately be our last mistake.
r.i.p. a guy over here in my country was running very very similar cycle but higher doses, he was taking insulin, he finished training and went and sat in the sauna, he died in there age 38.
safetyfirst21I think I heard about this one too. What country was this?
this was in south australia ( very well known body builder)
safetyfirst21Oh, there was another one in Thailand I believe it was. I was reading a guys old posting on running DNP on another board. He stopped posting, and was found dead in a steam room/sauna in his gym. (It was like a 6 month gap between the last post and his death though, so who knows)
I've been thinking about running tren for the last few weeks. Not any more I'm not sacrificing my health just for gains in muscle, I'm not educated enough on it, I value my health more than 45 quid bottle of gear. lol I wouldn't be running tren unless I was getting weekly bloods done from the doctor, also the guys death probably wasn't even steroid related he quoted he had a health problem before starting that cycle. But ill guess we will never know hope any kid thinking about the heavy gear reads this it will make them think twice
He is with the LORD in Heaven and my prayers go out to his family. Some friend of some pharma guy wants to sell my 22 year old brother a five month supply of this trenbolone stuff. Never used roids in his life and now going to tell him straight about how serious this business is.
That's a shame. Ive ran 7 cycles and still get awesome results from 1cc of test every five days. Rip man!
What a bummer ..... I ran tren in my second cycle years ago... Hated it ! I havent ran it since and I dont plan on it! I really hadnt done any research at the time I thought tren was one of the safest compounds! wow.... Im just glad I have taken the time now to do my holy homework.... I wish this cat would have.
RIP
Hahaha that's all I got to say about that
sgtstedanko:/
Sadly, I don't think he's laughing w/you, brother... This isn't something to laugh about, dude. Imho
Buildbigger86X 2 SGT This is not laughing matter at all. It is horrible to hear something like that occur. My heart goes out to his family. I am sure their pain is unimaginable. It's a shame
plus from 1. That needed to be stated.
Oh shit, didn't realize he was not with us any more.
Rest in peace bro...
sgtstedankoG2know. I respect you again : )
th crazy thing is. did anyone pm him or let him know he was using long esthers thinking their short esthers. damn. reminds me of
zyzz. i start following him on youtube to find out hes dead. crazy man, makes u sit back and take a deep breathe. then i chug water hoping my kidneys are alright.
This makes me real fuckin nervous boys... I'm on a very similar cycle. 1cc test prop with 1cc tren ace EOD, and 1cc equipoise 250 every 4th day...all gear from big d pharmaceuticals. Any comments please boys send 'em. No peptides, no GH, no insulin. I'm 216 lbs at 5'8" and 16% body fat. I don't use ANY recreational drugs, I'm 31 years old and healthy as a horse. But I NEED experienced bodybuilders and gear users to give me their advice.
safetyfirst21You're fine.
How many cycles have you done brother and is this the first time using tren ace? You are using short esters the other guy was using long acting esters... You should always start with a low dose of tren just to see how you tolerate it brother once you know how your body reaacts to it then you can up the dose.... Tren is for the more experienced and should only use it after you have multiple cycles under your belt... Make sure you have a solid pct set up bro... Good luck hope this helps!!!!
I just joined the site&have never done a cycle before.I'm 47 been working out all my life.Have 5 kids.Now I feel that it's time for roids.it a real shame someone so young can't experiance all life has to offer. I really feel for his family. RIP young man.
Wow, I've been on this site for more than a year now and this is the first time I've seen this thread. Maybe if all the kids on this site read this they'd realize this isn't a sprint, but a marathon. Slow and steady wins this race. RIP brother, way too young to go.
eryximachusThere is no winning.
None of us knows what the hell were are injecting. What needs to be stressed constantly is the extreme risk of using these products. These are not from the pharmacy. Many, like tren, have never been tested on humans.
Who knows what happened to this guy. While insulin was the likely cause, it could have been anything. I'm dealing with severe breathing problems 16 days after my last tren injection right now. Had to go to the ER and will have more tests today.
The real risks we take never really hit me until now, and it's rare to read anything about it.
jj gunnerRIP Brother, Guy's cycle was wrong from jump.Basically he front loaded long esters. Not no simple Test cycle .Eq, and tren.
Then insulin added. That will do it.
Lost a good friend running a solid test ,tren cycle and knew his shit. Made the mistake of relapse on meth ,while on .Dropped dead. Heart blown up.
eryximachusI'm starting to think tren is simply too dangerous to use, ever. Though meth addicts probably already had long term health problems.
I hate these stories, and I think all of us have to do a better job of always reminding people that this isn't the 1970s when bodybuilders got their gear from the pharmacy. This is crazy shit we are poisoning ourselves with. It's madness.
Obama BlowsDefinitely not for the green ones...If a simple Test cycle still gives you crazy gains, why change it? New compounds are only to be added if others begin to fail!
and may I say
FUCK SLIN
sgtstedankoI love you, man
Obama Blowsha ha! full homo? lol
sgtstedankoNo! I don't think... But for you, & your mindset, I'm willing to learn
Obama Blowsbwahaha! well played my good man! FR accepted
jj gunnerTren is hard core. No game. Should not be used till all othere gears don't cut it.
Obama BlowsDAMN! That's something I hate to see...Some people let their 'want' to get HUGE NOW be so important to them that they ignore their own safety! AAS can be safely and effectively used when done right people. But jumping into tren/slin/etc right out the gate is begging to have bad things happen! Take it slow guys...you'll reach your goals and we'll help you do it safely. Feel free to ask questions...I'll always offer any knowledge I have. Unless your asking about slin, in which case look elsewhere cuz I know nothing about it..never done it...never will...too dangerous IMO!
Add DNP for optimize cycle.
http://anabol-uk.weebly.com/ for the dnp
WTF