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Hahaha, that's fucked up
So I'm 3weeks in to PCT after my first ever cycle, went with 100 test prop eod for 10weeks... loved it
I was expecting a lower libido but should I be worried it isn't back yet? I've only got one more planned week of Clomid & Nolva PCT left, but thinking I might extend the Nolva a couple more weeks? Or stop PCT, go get bloods & possibly re-do PCT?
Any help from a fellow Aussie with personal experience would be awesome, Cheers
My last cycle was 12 week test based one. From waht i recall my libido was in the shithouse for about 6-7 weeks after last shot. That was with standard PCT protocol. Just one of the downsides i guess. Maybe something like tribulus might help. Dunno
This is gonna be fucken great brothers!
Generation Iron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd-4qBhUSR4&feature=player_embedded
Looks awesome brah!
Looks interesting. Wonder if they are guna mention steriods/insulin/gh/.... Or will it be the white elephant in the room?
Does anyone else have to supply street address and town n shit for WU, or is it just Queensland, obviously other places o/ s its just name and country,
Then cost ya 50 bucks for the Fuck around, thankyou very much
another attempt at enriching discussion. many people take test to just increase natural test to normal levels and dont want to stay on cycle for ever.
an interesting read is on letrozole and how it increases natural test levels with very very little letrozole.
http://thinksteroids.com/articles/letrozole-first-cycle-without-anabolic... is the link and
http://thinksteroids.com/forum/steroid-forum/letrozole-only-cycle-134318... is the discussion. the link to test nation has the experience of one guy as well as bloods. he takes .25mg letro a day and in 2 months of taking it his natural test near tripled.
considering you can stay on letrozole for longish periods and its super cheap to buy ~50 for 300 days of the amount of the guy used(30ml at 2.5mg from most places).
read the article he also recommends it as a way to build a strong endo background before starting test.
discussion away on whether it would be at all smart to even contemplate doing this kind of perma cycle. not planning to btw just an interesting thing i found
all fine in theory, what did his E2 levels and IGF levels look like...
Im guessing total shit..
The idea of cycling is terrible (and expensive)...
The way I see it, Im never gona stop training or the life style, my doc says just stay on 500mg/week between 8 week blasts....
But... this kinda talk will bring out the haters!! hahaha
Hey cuzzy bro. I am a hater. I hate the fact that customs has such a large quantity of my gear and that it costs so much to cycle. Oh shit I might be the wrong type of hater bro. Lol.
hahahaha, na i know what ya talking bout.. I want HGH atm, so fukn annoying here.
hey poo you ever read into Ronnie Rowlands slingshot training over on steroid.com? He speaks about 8 week blasts due to myostatin levels peaking at around the 8 week mark.
Ive read all the theories on myostatin, GLUT4 transport, Krebs cycle, receptor downgrade ect... Most of its horse shit..
I do 8 weeks coz i mentally and physically cant keep going... or eating, or afford more gear, then cruise, rethink diet, im getting the shit together for my next proper blast slowly... Should be good
380 buck fine for the gear I had on me. Swore on a bible in court that I wouldn't touch the stuff again... just placed another order yesterday lol.
and your bragging about it on an open forum?
Haha nice
Lol was around 380.. didn't want to put the real fine. But yeah. I'm not religious one little bit so swearing on a bible to save a fair few hundred bucks seemed like a good deal to me lol
How long until u get a letter if gear seized, it's been over 3 weeks from UK,
Also the Mexican dude I tried won't answer his emails for a week now since he received payment, man I'm pissed, hoping for the best
Anywhere from a month to six weeks usually. Was it a decent order? Oils or tabs?
300 iu of hgh all up soprobably small by some standards but big enough for me, was my first 2orders
300 is a big order and that shit needs to be refrigerated. The longer it sits in transit, the more potency it loses. I'll pm you
18 Gauge Needles.
I ordered these (clearly by mistake), when they came out the envelope, I am thinking, "No matter where I try to inject with these mother-fuckers, anywhere in my body, I'll hit a vein or a major organ".
If anyone has a recurring nightmare about catching gonorrhea from a Russian hooker and being driven to a "doctor" for an antibiotic shot in the dick, the man in your nightmare is holding an syringe with an 18 gauge needle.
If anyone looks like Arnie or has an elephant they are treating with test in the back yard, gimme a shout, I'll post them,
lol don't take a page out of the book of Poo. Buy some smaller pins
I had some test suspension that wouldnt go thru a 23g,
I was telling gothic about this night...
Used an 18g to inject 3ml of the shit, hit a vein and had a syringe with 1ml of blood and 3ml of suspension....
Put another 18g on and blasted it into my other leg..
watching blood go back in isnt pleasant...
But wasting gear is worse hahaha...
It was like ramming a copper pipe in ya leg and pouring the gear in, fukn painful....
NEVER AGAIN
Blood and shit everywhere..
Hahaha that's good shit.
Have you ever had blood squirt out of your quad?
Nicked a vein and I had a thin stream squirt out for a few seconds. Fuck me that was scary.
yeah a few times.... 2 or 3 squirts then it stops.
I shave the spots on my quads where I inject, now i miss them veins... Shit happens though
Dansta's right. I use the 18 for drawing, 25 for administering
Wish I was in Queensland where it's warm.. :( it's cold and raining in SA
How important is HCG for basic newbie cycle? im interested because of what poofinger said about using clomid instead of hcg during cycle then doing a massive kicker at end of cycle. i have read some stuff on the net and the idea sounds feasible.
I was sold on it for first cycle because it makes recovery all that much easier but I'm only doing test e 500 a week and using an ai so after much advice decided to drop hCG for now might do it next cycle when using dbol for the first 4 and last 4 weeks with the test e, with clomid and nova as pct you'll be fine, unless you are doing lost of compounds on your cycle
I would not use both clomid and tamoxifen but one or the other (preferably the latter). The use of both has gained some acceptance through hearsay (NB: a common pattern in bodybuilding). If you trace the origins of the recommendation it does not take long to realize that it has no good basis at all. It is based on a leap from studies on women, whose LH release patterns differ in a significant way from those of males.
http://thinksteroids.com/forum/steroid-forum/ask-michael-scally-why-1342...
Its a good read. I wouldn't say with such certainty that one is better than the other, or singular use is equally effective.
Page 6 especially.
cdaddy7 says:
Nolva/Clomid PCT: Clomid and Nolva actions Clomiphene works by blocking estrogen at the pituitary. The pituitary sees less estrogen, and makes more LH. More LH means that the Leydig cells in the testes make more testosterone....That right there is the difference. Doing this helps your testes come alive....Nolvadex stimulates the biosynthesis of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) that in turn initiate both intra-gonadal testosterone production and spermatogenesis as well as systemic testosterone secretion and virilization. The blood flow brings GnRH into the anterior pituitary where endocrine cells synthesize and produce FSH and LH. Nolvadex helps with LH(needed for natural testosterone) and FSH(helps produce sperm) in the pituitary but doesn't block estrogen from the pituitary--it blocks estrogen in your chest with the breast tissue.
Yes cdaddy's advice is sound. I would take his word any day..
For a newbie cycle, I would not consider HCG to be terribly important, but if used properly it can help with the recovery. Clomid instead of HCG during a cycle? Bad idea.
poofinger was saying that clomid could be used instead and for the sake of discussion i was asking the forum in general.
http://thinksteroids.com/articles/ask-bill-roberts-01/ has some interesting faqs on it
For fuck sack, someone open up a new discussion. We've been stuck on homebrew for two days
Does anyone homebrew?
being caught with a few vials of gear for a cycle is bad enough..
Being caught with raw powders, set up to distribute is just plain dumb
No one would admit that on the open forum lol
LOL this is true.
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the table flys at midnight walla
Hey mate check this out it's bloody hilarious. Well at least you will get it as a few of our bros from the past will.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7-gIA9ftSk
Jims a funny bastard, shame he doesn't tour Aussie enough.
hahahaha, that bit about the arab guy shooting the chopper with 9mm is spot on