Test E/EQ/Tren Ace Cycle
Great, just great... Somehow I overlooked this in the forum "Test / Tren / EQ Cycle.....RIP AEROK1025---PLEASE READ!!!" Now I'm freaked out...
Started on July 24th and I'm running:
- Test E/EQ Blend (Each ML contains 300 mg of each) at 600 mgs total each per week, twice per week. However, at first I just started with Test E at 600 mg per week and switched to the blend
a couple of weeks ago. - Tren Acetate at 100 mg EOD, but cut it back to twice a week, this week.
- Arimidex at .25 mg EOD and started that about 3 weeks in. I wanted to curb the estrogen factor and try to stay away from any gyno even trying to pop up or acne.
- PCT will be Nolvadex and Clomid
I'm 41 years old, everyone thinks I'm like 32 or 33, which makes me feel good. Also, I've already gained 20 pounds already, becoming very vascular, lifting heavier weights, and people are noticing my size. I'm 6' tall and weighing in at 256 lbs now. I had one guy that I hadn't worked with since last November not even recognize me and when I told him who I was he said, "Wow! You must be really working out, I didn't even recognize you at first." Now these are all wonderful ego boosters and I'm enjoying the size, strength, etc. But I don't want to kill myself on this stuff! Then I see my very cycle listed on "Test / Tren / EQ Cycle.....RIP AEROK1025---PLEASE READ!!!" and his dosages were a little lower than mine. I ran this cycle by my source and a few other very experienced people and they all gave me a green light and I went for it. I just don't know what to do now. The only adverse side effects just popped up this week. I've got about 9 pimples on my left shoulder and I'm not liking that at all. I also taking Cycle Assist, which is a product that is supposed to help with acne, liver, etc. I'm taking a little extra Milk Thistle as well and all of my other daily supps.
I realize I've put a lot out there for this post and I ask that only the truly experienced brothers out there respond to all of my concerns above. If I have to drop the EQ blend, I still have some Test P and Test E by itself and I think the Tren A has been doing its job. Not liking the new acne though. I must also say that my hands tend to go numb at night when I sleep at times. Man, I can't wait to hear from you guys and I'm so thankful you're out there, truly.
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If this is your 1st cycle.I would either drop everything and do a pct or finish with test E or C and then do pct. I would read http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/are-you-ready-... . If you think your not ready then stop everything and pct. If you are ready then finish with the test and do a proper pct. On your next cycle act as if it was your 1st and do a proper TEST E or C cycle. If you stop remember it wont be a total loss if you eat right and continue to workout.
tread-mGood stuff!
Will do... I have some Test E and P that should last to the end and PCT then, which I have Nolvadex and Clomid. Sorry guys, I just got a little too ambitious.
the main thing is you are willing to listen. +1 for that
Yah, it's not good to be stupid, no matter how good your intentions. ; )
tread-mFirst I'll tell you I talked to Aerok daily right up to his death. Wow, that won't help my credibility I guess! Let me say this, most of my conversations were him asking me about this compound or that and me saying slow down a bit. He was an amzing person in his personality and his life and an over achiever "big time". He had one little flaw and I won't reveal the details of that but he felt small compared to someone else in his life he looked up to very much. While he was a very patient kid his desire to get big now was overwhelming. He had discussed with me the use of insulin and I "thought" I had talked him out of it. As you will see in the thread if I remember I sort of stuck up for him once as everyone sort of hammered his ass in post. I did that because I was a friend and I also said "just slow down a little brothe" . Then he sent PM thanking me for sticking up and I said something to the effect of "I stuck up for you because I know you but you know I want you to slow down and the guys were right even if not diplomatic about it". He had confided a few things in me and " I've never felt comforrtable in telling anyone that". So that statement alone tells you he respected me a great deal as I did him. Saying so, I believe he may have ran insulin and not told me knowing I would be disapointed in him. So as to your fear, it may be a healthy thing in that you respect the compounds but while you make your decisions here with the guys and hammer out your stats and history that may be information to ease your mind. I don't want you dead either so respect it! As to a general statement, I won't run Eq less than 16 weeks and run test 2w weeks longer and will usually run Ace about 8 weeks in that close, you can't run Ace twice a week, the ester half is too short and that stability alone will break you out big time often. In fact, many opt for ed at half the the eod dose to create better stability and help with acne and do the same for many shorts including test prop. This is general advice awaiting all your info and I believe 8
Damn bro, I didn't know he was fuxkin wit slin. There was never any clarification on what happened exactly. Shit!
tread-mPretty sure brother, not positive.
You can see more stats in a few of the other postings. You're right on the Tren A, I could just decrease my dose from 100 mg EOD to 50 mg. I appreciate your posting and all the commments. I typed that on the spur of the moment about going to twice a week after being a little shaken over the article we were discussing. I knew better as far as that went.
tread-mI had no info brother, the advice was random. Now seeing this is your first follow the advice above finfan or below nitti and drop all and pct or drop back to test only and finish. There are rules with AAS and you follow them or take big risks...follow them, first cycle test only.
Will do and it's good to have people to slow you down when you get a little too ambitious in these areas. I know one thing, I'm loving what I see and feel. I will heed the advice though. I have enough Test E and Test P to make a finish at 12 weeks and will kick in my PCT with the Nolvadex and Clomid that I have. Thanks again...
tread-mGood to know, I knew these guys would fix you up just wanted a little more info for Aerok. Damn good people that kid, sure many people will learn from his mistake, at his cost unfortunately.
Thanks for link. This guy was taking 200 of tren e eod that's about 800mgs. There's a huge build up there. If you took your tren ace every other day, I count that at 400 mg a week. With e ester at those doses he was taking, he had zero room to trouble shoot problems . I don't believe it's gear related how ever all info available is invaluable. I believe your cycle is fine. He was also running lots of peptide apparently also. I would imaging he's more likely to have had sudden athlete death syndrome which you can't diagnose with out a heart MRI. Ive run test e at 800mg . After ester weight is figured in I'd imagine that's right around 650 mgs of test for me weekly.
Very good question sir. I like seeing questions like these.
Yah, I guess he was running more tren, I overlooked that. It was just freaking me out because I had a few experienced people look at my cycle and they were saying the same, that it should be fine. Again, all of them also said that test e alone for a first cycle should be just fine, but I got a little enthusiastic about it and added the other two.
I don't know your cycle history! I don't think your doses are bad. I just don't know that tren hould be in your cycle at the present time. Luckily its acetate and you can drop it and pick up with npp instead. Much less harsh and you'll love it! So how about it, you gave your stats, how about some cycle history please? And by the way, you counted the new pimples on you? Lol
Oops, tread already answered this! You heard the man, DROP IT!
Yah, I counted them, lol. : )
Ok, try not to be too hard on me, this is my first. I had coworker/friend who has more experience with more cycles and he was on Tren A and liked how it was working for him and added it and EQ. I know that it is recommended that I only do test on the first and I guess I got overly enthusiastic about this whole thing. But I wanted to be honest. I'm assuming NPP is Nandrolone Phenylpropionate. I'm still trying to get used to all of the nicknames and so on.
OK, i'll save my frustration for another, less humble cat. Ok, drop the tren like yesterday! You don't need it! Your first cycle should be Test only! Test is the grand daddy of them all. It s going to be the base of any cycle you do. Get a hold of the compound in the different esters. Learn to gauge it. Find the right doses. You don't even need another compound right now. Seriously. 600mg of test is good enough for your first cycle. You have a shit ton of receptors with not enough test naturally. Your first cycle, introducing all this free testosterone, your body responds in an amazing way! The first cycle is alwayts the best one! Do as much reading as you can. Ask valid questions, not lazy ones. Learn to gauge how you respond to the compounds. But for now, please drop the tren
tread-mBig N laid it down like paint!
Thank you my brotha! I like helping guys like this. He's receptive! Probably because he's not 22. Lol
tread-mLool..yuuup, otherwise he'd be telling us "my friend Bubba did it"!
Yah, I guess I had better do that and drop the EQ too, correct? I can just save the stuff for a later cycle.
You're already what about 6 weeks in? I think that's a question for tread. Since you've already gotten this far with it, I think it's just about going to kick in. I don't know. I think it shouldn't have been included but since it's already there, whatcha think guys?
I would carry on with it. But considering the length of cycle for eq with test e, probably 18-20 weeks, I think that is too long for a first cycle. Cut your losses on the eq and run a full eq/test next time.
tread-mCONSIDERING THE NECESSARY LENGTH, PERFECT RESPONSE IMO .....X2
Exactly. The reason is to see how you're body responds to test. It's you're foundation in nearly all cycles which is second to diet and training. My first 3 cycles was test e, then test e again, then test p, before I moved on to designing my body other than only test and diet. Ugh. It's late here. Glad ya got some answers bro. Night eroids.
Can you send a link to the article you're referring to?
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/test-tren-eq-c...
It's a sticky
http://www.ar-r.com/ancillaries/dutast-30ml-0-5mg-ml.html. Dutast will take care of your dht related acne or thinning hair. Check sources but I've only ever seen it here.
I had a look and it appears it's only for thinning hair and I still have my thick head of hair, so that's good.
http://www.basskilleronline.com/profile-dutasteride.shtml. I use for acne with great results. I'm also not concerned with hair
Cool, I will look into getting some of this, thanks.
Also for heavy acne
have you been checking your blood pressure? the numbness in your hands can be a sign of hypertension
I had been to the doc for an injury to my shin, went a couple of times and they said the top number was a little high, but the bottom was right on and that's what counted most. They didn't seem very concerned. Good question though, thanks for asking...
thats good, with tren and eq increasing rbcs that would be the thing that stands out most to me. imo it couldnt hurt to have some bloodwork done now to make sure nothing is way out of whack. maybe some more experienced guys will be around in a few and can provide more insight. one thing i noticed, you listed adex but nothing for prolactin sides