posted Wed, 10/26/2011 - 08:03
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Idk about kigtrophin, wanted to order but after a guy got hygetrophin with pinwheel tops to them, im concerned and not sure I wanna buy kigtrophin from [Contact me for Src]. REAL hygetrophin should not have pinwheel tops, they should have engraved hygetrophin and 8 iu on caps.
http://hygetropin-international.com/fake-hygetropin-alert.php
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So your basing they are fake off the fact they have pinwheel tops ?
Or have you done bloods ?
Here is an easy way to not only test your hgh, but it's also a way for us to prevent fraud by scammers selling bunk hgh.
The Protocol:
Inject 10 iu IM.
Have your blood drawn 3-4 hours after injecting.
Fasting is not necessary.
No strenuous activity for at least 30 min prior to test.
What level represents a "pass?" Our research indicates that injecting 10 iu IM of pharmaceutical grade HGH yields a serum level of between 15-50 ng/mL.
The test that you need to order is a Human Growth Hormone, Serum test. You can order the test at privatemdlabs for about $50. You can usually find a 15% off coupon if you look around also. After ordering the test online, you will then print off the order and take it to the nearest labcorp for the blood draw. There is no need for an appointment. You will have your results in 24-48 hours.
When mixing your hgh, be very careful when injecting the bac water, handling it in a rough manner could destroy the hgh and give you a false negative. Inject the water against the side of the vial and let it run down slowly. Store your hgh in the fridge before and after reconstituting.
The standard protocol is well known here but thanks for trying to bring that information.
Juice -- not a problem and thanks for the update. Is there any other recommended methods for IGF testing? I know this is not an exact science and everyone's bodies react differently, but if you or anybody else have some suggestions then I am all ears. Thanks for your efforts.
Well I would get an IGF test instead of the GH serum test you recommend in your post to test IGF-1.
Not other than the igf panel you can get on Privatemdlabs. The only other option to check purity is hplc test. Not happening.
For everyone posting on this thread, please have a look at this link for the fake stuff coming out of China: http://www.forbodybuilders.net/2012/02/human-growth-hormone-hgh/. If you can get your hands on the real deals, the Jins, Kigs and Hyges all work fine. I have been on Kigtropin a couple of weeks now and gotten some great results, but I did not get mine from EHealthPill, but another source, the bottomline is do your research.
There's no such thing as real hygetropin since the two owners of the company split. The hygetropin that's legit has the pinwheel tops, it is from one of the original owners and is from the .com.cn site
I just got my HYgetropin a few days ago. I pinned 3 ius and that same evening, I had a trance like deep sleep like I haven't had since I was maybe 12. My skin already looks smoother, brighter, and shinier. This is the best hgh Ive ever used next to Jintropin circa 2006. Take my opinion for what it's worth. Also, I leave more negative reviews than positive ones if you look at my profile. I'm very stingy with the positive reviews and extremely difficult to please. Take that for what its worth as well.
AnonThe phentermine37.5 was fake as well. I contacted her and she did give me a refund.However it has left a bad taste w/me.I am no newbe to this drug I do know that it was not legit.
Although this doesn't instil a lot of confidence in me, just because one product is fake does not mean the other products are also fake. Obviously different companies make the different products they sell, but again, this does slightly lower my trust in ehealthpill. I think it would be better for them and the customers if they dropped any known fake products as soon as they are made known.
tread-mGreat point and let me add to it, when is the last time you heard of a company in this business hearing that they had a supplier selling something under dosed and they made it right? Never comes to my mind...most will deny and ignore and call you out in review board or even blaim it on you. Ehealth not only acts in a responsible way by refunding but they go to work to fix their problems. Recently when I heard about this they refunded customer and then began telling new customers it was under dosed and not to order it until the problem with that supplier could be resolved. We dont find this service guys and gals, its almost unheard of, a gear company that puts the customer first and if they have one of their suppliers that is sending under dosed to their customer they actually go to work on the problem. This story might bother some but it actually strengthens my relationship with this source. I love these people, always willing to take care of me and my orders and treats me the way a customer should be treated. Look around the reviews, many suppliers ,even domestic, taking forever on orders making one mistake after another and very often not making the issue right. Try to tell some of these suppliers you got 9 instead of 10 ml on something, its usually a too bad for you senario. I'm an ehealthpill nut until they begin acting like the others and then I'll be running around raising hell. Lol. I've only used them for around 4 monhs but I've not had a single issue other than a seize and they got on it like paint and sent a free reship...whats not to love?
I had a concern about my kigs from ehealthpill being fake due to many spelling mistakes on the box and insert. I kept taking the kigs anyway. Now I am getting heart palpitations many times a day.Has anyone else ever had heart palpitations in HGH? WTF?
Incorrect spelling?
I just bought some.... Great kigs arent real kigs either great.
To be clear didnt say it wasnt real gh, but when u pay for a name, you pay more
Even when its generic stuff.
those instructions that come in the box spelling errors or not they are instructions and GH is a medication you have to pay some attention to those instructions. they clearly state you should be running test with your GH and also 6ius is very high so please detail exactly ALL of what you are taking so we can research based on all of the facts. thanks.
tread-mQuestion is are you still taking 8 iu's of kig with no test? Myself and now 100 other people are using kigs and I have been using it for months, before ehealth ever showed up here.....no heart palputations. But I'm serious when I ask , any test at all? I really would like to help with your questions and help you find some solutions if I can. But no heart palps and I have taken sooo much m.ore hgh than you have, keep in mind though, we all have our own issues with health but please dont come in and start a shit storm brother because thats where this will go if the fake talk without merit comes up. If you have some fake merit put me on it and if there is any truth to it I'll head up the war but kigs has been very good to many of us using it as it is meant to be used. I understand you said test gives you problems but tbhat doesnt make your hpg axis special and react diffeent to facts around bhormone balance. So if you would like to share what all you are using we can all go to work as a community to find out what might be giving you trouble....
I too have been using Kigs for aliitle over a month or so and I already notice that I recover alot faster, it has allowed me to train my chest arms shoulders twice a week. If they are what you call "fake" then they sure work good. I have noticed some differences in the exp date some are printed some are stamped. Some of my friends are using them also with great results.
Its all in what you feel and see. Labels dont mean shit and if you found a source with a reiable product then dont change or experiment with new ones
Can I ask a potentially silly question....
why isn't ehealthpill listed as a source in the source section for HGH? Seems like this thread and others like it would be good there directed /giving feedback for that source.
FYI- good thread, good info. I want to order some HGH and this helps.
thans
tread-mThats a good question and I thought I actually did submit them categorizd as such. They should come up in both though I would think given they are a full line supplier...
this is the other OPINION i had on real or fake.
please people understand what real or fake means. example viagra has a 20 year patent on the product viagra and a recipe for that product protected by law. india pharm and china pharm know what it takes to "recreate" viagra based on the patent and all the stuff on file withthe FDA so they decide to recreate it to the T with phizer logo and all. well viagra is a little blue pill. they make a little blue pill and the color is slightly off. fuck!!! you take it and have the monset hard on of your dreams because its all there, every ingredient thats supposed to be there. do you stop buying it cause its "fake" hell no cause if you do you are a fool. you WILL NOT get real viagra for $1 a pill and surely you wnt get it at that price outside of its country of origin. same with GH. my source who i have been on 3 months now is pretty honest with me and told me this is a real good copy. the Jun they have sells for far more but why??? cause of the name they chose to lable it with. what is it??? its GH 191 amino acid. so will i not buy it cause its "fake" hell no i will continue to use it cause i know what it is. all this test we use. originates in raw form someone uses it to produce our oils. now if there is a company out there that has a good name you can rest asured that someone else is reproducing it and labling it the same way to get a better price. "fake" NO just reproduction. fake is when you come to me to by cocain and i sell you baking soda. do some research brothers. i buy from these people and am very satisfied with what i have gotten. they may be in china but beleive me they spend tons of money and go to xtremes to make a close to perfect copy for us to be satisfied. this knowledge comes by searching out the truth AND IF YOU CANT COMPREHEND THAT EVERYTHING AROUND YOU CAN BE REPRODUCED THEN MAY THE BRAIN GODS SHOW YOU FAVOR SOMEDAY. not trying to be an ass but dont dog the sorce because of your lack of full understanding, please. pm me if i can help yo any further.
how do you like this link?? who is the real and who is the fake? they say different things dont they?
http://www.hygetropinpro.com/all-about-hygetropin/fake-and-genuine.html
let me know what you think about the whole "pin wheel" beingthe fake one.
Omg how the fuck does any know now? Lol
They're all real/fake. Lol
Another site saying exact opposite, wtf....
tread-mIts just people like you and me brother who have the balls to step up and take one for the team and try the source to confirm, we're in it together and share our success and failures and all get better.
She mentioned she can sell raws, I really need to find legit raw
tread-mI cant confirm raw but its about half the price per kg of whats out there. Kind of in line though given she is basically wholesale price even on small orders. Just ask her if she will guarantee it the way she does everything else.
gonna stick at 3 for 3 months then go up to 4 and run it for a year, maybe longer.
Nice, so your gonna stick to HRT levels for all compounds for awhile then huh?
That's the plan!!!
3 iu morning plus 150 mcg of t4. Also taking hrt levels of test.
Sounds delicious man, are you sticking to 3 or you gonna bump it up to 4 later on?
I can confirm the Kigs seem to be the real deal, been running it for about 6 weeks and all the sides are there numbness in fingers, better sleep, etc. Dont get me wrong I know you cannot evaluate the quality of hgh in 6 weeks but I don't know of anything fake that will give you the same exact sides. Actually getting the same sides I got with U.S. pharm grade gh and have even noticed a little weight loss with a shitty diet at this point.
I've been on them 6 weeks also. And I can say that the kigs are g2g. I have the numbness in my hands. My sleep has improved 200%. I've always had sleep problems and now I sleep like a Baby. It seems too good to be true, really...
Are you running t4 and test? I really began to notice the sides alot better when I added the t4. Started with just test and hgh, felt real lethargic until I added the t4 then the sides came on pretty quick at just 3iu a day. Also what are you dosing at?
Yes I am running T4 with it. I'm also running .75ml of Test p 100 every 3 days to keep my test levels up between cycles. I started at 2iu ed 1st two weeks then started 3.3iu ed thru week 6. Now it's week 7 & I'm moving up to 5iu ed.
tread-mKing if you dont mind tbhe extra pin you might try to hit that P at 50 every 2 days. It fully depletes in 72 hrs so the eod might even improve on the success you are having. I've been playing around a lot and even considering cut my every 2 day in half and hitting daily. As of now I do feel what seems to be better stability in eod though, you never fully deplete the p.
I don't mind the xtra pin. AB's prop is really smooth. ZERO PIP. I'm gonna try .5ml EOD and see how that goes. Thanks, once again, for your awesome advice.
Thats good news.... You got from ehealth? Right
yeah got it from ehealth, only 5 days from China.
What dosage are you on?
tread-mBefore you read below bother I'll let you ijn on soemthing I have found out through very deep research checking through who posts "fake cries" etc. Most of the fake cries all over the internet come from competitors. Its usually a new source trying to poison other good sources thinking that poison will drive business to them. It makes it very hard for us to find whats real in complaints and whats fake. I have found, when I first did deep research on this, websites exposing fake suppliers. As I went deeper and started researching who owned the fake site etc, I found a new supplier owned the site bashing all these sources and was simply tryijng to brijng them down for self gain. Found that over and over studying growth and who makes it, whates real, how to know purity and on and on....its much more complicated than most people understand...its scorched earth marketing that makes it hard for us to find good suppliers. Its just like the site implicating eroids as a fraud.....its someone witbh a personal agenda and has no factual content what so ever!
Are you saying im a source claiming this is fake to stray people? Cause guys that bash other peoples true claims about a supplier are often part of that supplier. If anyone looks, they will see your over baring praise for ehealth and you reference others to their many sites. If anything you "know" too much about ehealth and what/when they will be selling. Not accusing unless thats what you're doing towards me. People in league are often quick to claim another source is bashing to gain. Also wasnt it you that brought attention to ehealth for all of us (If you wanna get real)
I simply stated the obvious.... A real site ( http://hygetropin-international.com/fake-hygetropin-alert.php ) telling you about how legit hygetrophin should be (caps especially)
Explain "top copy" please "top clone" "top fake". I dont care for brands! All that matters is quality product. When a generic gh fakes packaging to make profit, thats not cool. Just as underground labs faking amps and claiming human grade. Quality is all that matters, but lies to rack up more money and guarantee sales? Bullshit!
This is no post to say ehealth pill are scammers. But when you find out something is fake, you question the product and any product sold. Fake hgh? Didnt say that, but its mosdef fake hygetrophin
http://rbbgear.blogspot.com/2010/07/hygetropin-200iu.html#comments
This guy had good gh but it doesnt change the fact its fake hygetrophin.
I want real gh, kigtrophin to be specific.... But I have to question any brand thats an obvious fake, regardless of contents.
tread-mWell we are getting somewhere in conversation so lets keep it conversation that way we all learn, seriously. Ok so your question or accusation is that I might be tied to the source. You didn't really accuse that so I'll give you what everyone I know here knows. I lost a source which is what brought me to eroids to begin with . I then began using Geared Fast and his kig. Different caps than Ik knew but it didn't matter if product was good and it checked out. I had enough kig to last a bit when GF went down so I began researching new sources and made some test runs of 2 of the 3 that checked out. I began using eheallth because they were the best of the 3 but it did not want to submit them here and subject you guys to them until I could really know. Reason for that is I have made some good friends here and I just dont do people that way and by the way, i didnt want a bunch of people pissed if I brought a shit source. So eventually I realized that these people are very different than any other source I know. Myself and personal friends at home here and many here have been confirming one product after another and we have found out they will refund someone dissatisfied and reship free if seized. So my moltivation is as you know, its damn hard to find a source like this so I feel the need to protect them as long as they are honest and so far they have been. I'm telling you if your friend starts using the top copy if thats what it is and its not high quality they will refund.....let me say this and then wait to hear from you, if this source intentionally fucks someone, meaning an accident occurs and they dont make it right I will personally lead the charge to bring them down,promise you! As of now, they are doling everything right. Had a friend get under dosed xanax bars that came from one of their suppliers and he told them about it, now they tell everyone they are bunk until they can resolve it. They are just good people brother and my guess is your friend uses the hyge and its as good as the jin and kig I use with them. Friended you by the way in case you have other concerns or we can talk here. I want to be the first to know if something is wrong because a lot of friends here use them. I have no doubt though if he feels its not working or carpal signs dont show up if he uses it properly they will take care of him as though he were at walmart.
Explain " top copy"
Not real hygetrophin/jintrophin but same/near quality?
Is kigtrophin a "top copy"
tread-mOh hey, forgot to answer your main question. I had one order I thougbht might be top copy from another source but no differnce at all in quality as it pertained to side. May have actually been during the switch over though wbhen the company was sold. This last change in the caps was the only change I saw as the new owner took it over. For the monay its good stuff! Now dont get me wrong, its not 5mg true Eli Lilly but with the amount I use that would cost me around 100 bucks a day so unless this power ball comes through I cant do it! Lol
Say please mutherfucker.
So Tread tries to open up conversation and explain himself with a big-ass post, and the best you can do is demand "explain Top Copy" without a please or thankyou.
What the fuck do you think a top-copy is mutherfucker? Thats exactly what it is ... a top copy of the product.
IMO, I dont think anyone else should waste their time replying to u.
Learn some fucking manners.
Who are you? Bitches shut up when men are talking. Move along lil bitch....
While i think its good your sticking up for my man TREAD, some of us have different ways we talk. i dont think he was DEMANDING just asking in a way that can sound bad. At the same time you telling him to learn some manners they way you are talking to him doesnt really prove your point. If TREAD felt attacked he wouldnt be answering the Questions so nicely.
tread-mI appreciate the convo brother...top copy is as you likely suspect, a copy cat but done to a degree that it is same strength and purity i n terms of 191 percentage. Such as in my case, I have 2 sources for Balkan prop. I will use both sources one being real and one being top copy but I prefer my top copy source because its stronger....love this shit! I can tell by your last post you have some knowledge of all this so it makes it easier I honestly am not the shoot first and ask qjuestions later type though and I think you're better than that too. You may have already heard as well. Their viagra is top copy to get around patents but it is the exact ingredients brought under ground, same thing, I have no problem with that because I can buy it for one dollar as opposed to 20 dollars. Have not used hers yet but I will based on 2 people I know who have. Again, I promise you I will only protec this source because I love it but if they fuck you or anyone else I will be there and be the deepest thorn in their ass. Right now all I see is crazy good customer service, good product and delivery time and the couple times they have had a mistake they took care of it. We just dont find that anymore and a lot of it is because people ran off a new good source before they had time to prove themselves. Thanks again for the conversation and glad to talk more here or i n PM anytime.
Okay that explains it. But again why used an established name? Idk any reason to copy unless its for markup/guarantee sale. AS GREAT AS THEY MAY BE DOESN'T IT STILL QUALIFY AS COUNTERFEIT?