If you dont want it then dont get it. I am using ehealthpill with great success. You might take time to understand the reason for a lot of different packaging issues including the fact that 1000 different people make hyge. The term "real" is thrown around in a silly way with 191. Now while I know what you are saying it just means you have. not tapped into the reality of hgh and its marketing etc. I have talked about this many times befor but let me address it for you and if you have questions I can answer I will. The word real is like the word gyno. Lots of people running around tbhinking thy have had gyno or almost got gyno or stopped gyno. Sore nipples are not gyno, very sore nipples are not gyno. Gyno has taken on a false meaning out of scare. The same goes for "real" or "fake". Real simply means the hgh is 191 in purity above say 180 and the mg's are accurate. So do many people make "fake" hyge? Yes because it is really peptides lower than 191 pure or its much lower frags or a pep and hcg mix or its just something fake altogether. I have used top copy jin and kig from ehealth both legi. Now while I have not used the hyge I think why would all the rest be real and this not? Heres the othyer thing. Ehealth not only guarntees delivery and proved it to me after a seize, they will refund your money if not happy and they proved that to a memebr here who was using no test and running 8 iu's of hgh with no results!!!!!! I know stupid huh?lol. At any rate, ehealth packages through the m.anufacturer specifically for sveral different pharma groups as well as different countries who may all have different specs required for product and packaging. I even received product with no dates and through much research as to why found out that product was made for Russia who requires a different packaging with red dating and batch upon delivery in country....very complicated but I received left over product from tht specific run of product. Heres the thing, I know 100 people using there product and the only one I know who had no results was running it wrong.....theres the deal. Again, fully guaranteed product so its HSN quality customer care.........I would ask more people to speak about first hand experience rather than rumors and research. There is so much to be learned about underground product I could go on for days. I appreciate your desire to research here and hope tbhis helps a little. One m.ore example I'll give you...gensci jintropin. Its all "fake" according to the definition you give. The truth is its all top copy with a little fake on the market. The good top copy will fool even some very experienced people because its good product and packaged very well, high end manufacturing and even has fake seals, pharma papers and actual confirmation n umbers to check on the website. I know the little secret to tell if its top copy or real but I wont spread that because then more people will cry fake on perfectly good 191. Since the law suits and international fines gensci is pharma only. There is a rumor that the top copy is all back door gensci but given the little secret about confirmation numbers I dont necessarily agree. Having said that, they m.ay have incorporated the little flaw in this secret to protect themslves from further fines. Hgh market is vey complicated brother and if you reseach 40 hours a week for many weeks delving into it you might, might, learn all the little secrets. End of the day, if you get quality manufacturing in bottles and its dosed right with good purity and it works, its not fake even if you see something that seems diffrent about packing. All these things you see about this is different or that is different are usually newbs pretending to k now something they know absolutely nothing about. Having said so, go with the proof when you buy and co nfirm things yourself even after you waddle though all the reviews etc....let me know if I can help and if I have answers I''ll gived them. Or find one for you......