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Cutting diet critique

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What's up everyone

6'3" currently 225 at 13-15% BF

Goal- keep as much mass as possible but get to 10-12% BF.

Figured all this according to DBG plan 1 of cutting. Looking to know if it's correct and If im eating too much. Also the eggs are a big part of calories and protein but I know they are high in cholesterol. Any ideas on substitutions

TDEE 3500 calories
194 LBM
3500cal/6parts = 583c

Maintenance

Carbs - 1749 Cal 388g
Protein - 1166 Cal 291g
Fat - 583 Cal 97g

Week 1 - 194 carbs
Week 2 - 94 carbs
Week 3 - 94 carbs
Week 4 - 94 carbs
Week 5 - 94 carbs

Meal 1- milk + protein +kale (19c 2f 57p)
Meal 2 - 2 bagel thins + 2 tbsp natural PB + banana (82c 19f 17p)
Meal 3 - 1 cup Greek yogurt + .5 cup protein granola (67c 17f 42p)
Meal 4 - 5 eggs (5c 25f 35p)
Meal 6 - 8oz chicken, 1 cup broccoli + raw almonds (9c 29f 60p)
Meal 7 - milk + protein + kale (19c 2f 57p)
Meal 8 - 8oz chicken + 1 cup broccoli (6c 9f 50p)
Meal 9 - 5 eggs (5c 25f 35p)

3,590 calories 215G carbs 133G fat 376 G protein

Makwa's picture

If your TDEE is 3500 cals, drop it by 500 cals and you should be losing about a pound a week. So start at 3000cals/day. If you are dropping 2+lbs/wk i would up the cals a bit until you get to that loss of 1 to 1.5 lbs/wk. I find that if I am losing more than that per week that I am losing too much muscle along with it, even on cycle.

I would gradually cycle your carbs down instead of dropping them cold turkey like that. by dropping them too low right away you risk losing muscle instead of maintaining or even building muscle. Another reason is you will likely stall your metabolism and force your body into survival mode. This means that your body’s metabolic rate will drop making it very difficult to continue losing body fat.

Here is something you can try. I would try to start out your diet with at least 1.5g of protein per pound of bodyweight (2g/lb would be even better) and fat around .5g/lb of bodyweight. The remainder of your diet would then be carbs. So for a guy about your size you will actually be around 400g carbs starting out if going with 1.5g of protein, carbs will be less if you go with 2g protein (which is the option I would personally go with). This may seem like a lot of carbs to start out with but just follow along here. Now, every time you hit a plateau in your diet and it seems like you haven’t made any fat loss progress for at least a week, it’s time to drop carbs. You’ll reduce carbs by 0.25 grams per pound of body weight each time you need to cut again, but still keep your protein and fats and the same. For a guy your size each time you drop the carbs down is going to be about a 200 cal drop. The lowest I would go down to would be .25g of carbs/lb of bodyweight. You probably will never have to go that low unless you are prepping for the stage and trying to get to 4% BF.

There are alot of ways to skin a cat when trying to lose BF which I'm sure other guys will chime in about, but this will work and minimize muscle loss even while off cycle. You'll likely gain muscle mass also if you are on cycle by following thish. You are not trying to get to uber-low BF so by following this diet routine with fasted cardio in the morning and your regular workouts you shouldn't have a problem reaching your BF goal.

I wouldn't worry about the cholesterol from eggs. That cholesterol is actually beneficial for building muscle and with all the cardio you will be doing you should be in tip top shape. I'm popping 9-12 whole eggs a day when I am not worried about sodium (prepping for a show). Instead of milk, I now use almond or cashew milk (get the unsweetened). Put a little protein powder in it if you want more protein. It makes great smoothies.

Bigguy07's picture

Ok cool I think I'll give that a go, is that .25g carbs per pound of body weight or LBM? Thanks for your help

Makwa's picture

To keep things easier you should be fine with just body weight when cutting your carbs by .25g.

Bigguy07's picture

Got it! Thanks again. This will be my first time trying to lower BF. It took me a long time to get to 225, now I wanna lean it out a little. Gotta get ready to run some primo

irongame427's picture

I'm personally not a big fan of milk especially while cutting. Seems to bloat me up big time. If your maintence is 3500 and your cutting diet is 3500 cals how do you plan on creating a deficit to lose fat? I'm confused here it says week 1 194g carbs but your diets 215. Then week 2 it's 94g so that would bring you into a 400 calorie deficit. As for the eggs what I personally do is something like 3 whole eggs and 7 egg whites. Keeps the fat and cholesterol down while still giving you enough protein. Maybe you can make things a little clearer.

Bigguy07's picture

Thanks for the help man

It was kind of a rough pan, just setting out a day to see what it looks like. You are right I need to cut the carbs by 21g. So your saying by cutting my carbs in half 388 down to 194 then I need to cut the calories along with it - 1749 /2 = 875?

I've heard that about milk, my only issue is I get a decent amount of protein and calories from it. What do you substitute with?

I appreciate it

guitarplayer1's picture

How many days a week you doing cardio? And in what form?

On leg and back days double your carbs to 200 gr and the other 5 days lower to 100gr. Keep your leg and back days 3-4 days apart. Always take in all your carbs (excluding fibrous) by meal 5 since you have 8 listed.(you're missing meal 5 up top)

On the 100gr carb days bring your fats UP to 20-30% and on the 200gr carb days bring DOWN your fats to 10%

I personally keep skim milk,plain greek yogurt and No Fat plain cottage cheese in. I would worry about those unless your going for under 10%

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Bigguy07's picture

Cardio is twice a week post workout. I get on bike for 10 minutes. 1 minute as fast as possible and 1 minute rest.

Makwa's picture

I would hit that cardio fasted in the morning before breakfast. HIIT training is fine but I would be doing it at least 4x/wk and bump it up to 10 intervals (1min hard as possible and 1 min rest for 10 intervals). If you are really serious about fat loss I would be doing cardio 7 days/week first thing in the morning. 4 HIIT sessions/wk and the rest LISS for about an hour.

Bigguy07's picture

Wow. I thought I was slacking it but I didn't know by that much. I'm up at 4:45am for work, it would be really hard to get up earlier for cardio. Maybe I can do that sat and Sunday. I will def amp up cardio

Makwa's picture

the nice thing about fasted cardio is that your glucose reserves are extremely low since you haven't eaten anything all night, so all you really have left for energy reserves is your fat, so that is going to be your primary fuel source in a fasted state. I guess the next best time would be after your lifting session, since you should have used up a large portion of your glucose reserves to get through your workout. During my prep for my show I was hitting 12 sessions/wk of hour long HIIT, fasted in the morning and post-workout. Either way make sure you are pumping yourself full of BCAA's before and during your cardio sessions to help spare muscle tissue.

Bigguy07's picture

Thanks for the help man. I've been on the diet for 5 days now, Ti can definitely notice the difference, my abs peeking through in morning and I feel tired