posted Sat, 04/27/2024 - 08:30
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Customs & FDA Seizures
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I'm curious, I participated in a promo back in March and both orders placed in March have been seized with letters delivered to notify me. Made an additional order in the beginning of April, and also received a letter of seizure. I will now abandon anything international, but the issue is I have nothing but issues with crypto so I won't pay using that.
In summary, three orders from the same source with the same outcome. $450 spent and not one package delivered. My main question is, are other people having the same amount of issues as I am? I know the two possibilities are that either customs is performing their jobs well or the package, method of delivery or other things are what's causing the issue.
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The only thing I will order now international is medicine. I will buy everything else domestic.
I was trying to piece together a decent cycle, pct and post cycle routine. That's why it was three orders. I had some blood work done in between those orders and I will be put on TRT. I have some thyroid issues to straighten out and my doctor said once that's figured out then they'll prescribe me HGH to try to help with my sleep and belly fat. My test was 100 and having hyperthyroidism right now is most likely to blame.
How did someone give a thumbs down on this topic? Lol, damn. Cold blooded.
Probably cuz you mentioned payment method.
Lol. This post can be a recent one. Scary times
Ahhhh fuck they got me lol.. I didnt even see its 7months old.
Lol they got us both then! But what I'm saying is a lot of this is going on right at this moment! I talked to an src and he did mention more issues.
No shit. Damn, Im waiting on my bogo order and the giveaway I won... Scary times indeed.
Yeah I'm retiring from that lol
Yeah after these hopefully land, Ill be right behind you.
Lol. Get out while your on top
My opinion is that it has very little to do with flagging addresses, but more on with what's happening overseas. We are at war, maybe not full-on war, but we are at war nevertheless. If you guy's go to U.S. jobs you will see tons of jobs for customs and border patrol officers: why? Because the mail system could easily be a way for enemies to attack with a wide variety of things, biological warfare is very real. So everything that comes from overseas will be subject to be checked and now they have the manpower to do so, with new agents that are very happy and motivated because they will be earning up to $95,000 a year for checking suspicious packages. I don't think the suits will go to anyone's home for a few bottles of Test and Tren, but they will definitely throw them away and send you a sweet love letter that says: "We know what you're doing, juicer."
Again, this just my opinion... I might be wrong.
No need to attack from overseas when u can just walk across our southern border, sad but true.
Maybe, but I'm mexican and the interests of south america are very different from those of the governments from Russia, North Korea, Iran and even China, but thats talking in general terms. Refuge and escaping famine is not terrorism.
Not to make it a debate about who has what intentions, but my statement was more based on accessibility and not which individuals are coming in. Anybody can make their way to the easiest access point, it’s not exclusive to ppl from Mexico or Latin/South America correct? Would you agree drugs like fentanyl are just as dangerous to peoples lives as chemical/bio weapons coming through the mail?
Yes, just like crystal meth.
... and my point was to the original theme based on USPS and the latest package seizures.
But as a healthy discussion just think of this: You can hermetically close every entry point in the U.S. and violence, criminality, substance abuse, rape, incest, murder and everything else will still exist. That's in the U.S. and in every corner of the world. Evil knows no boundaries, race or color, it just exists in humanity. I don't think the south border should be a free for all, that would be a mistake, more regulations should be in place. But more than 90% of dangerous contraband that passes through the border passes because someone with power was paid to let it pass. Corruption it's a bitch.
But my point was: The U.S. is in high alert and that includes being cautious in every aspect of government, including the postal service. Peace.
Never had anything seized, one was delayed, reshipped and delivered. A few weeks later the original package showed up in my mailbox. .
Anyone ever have their pack seized when buying domestically?
Late to the party for this thread, but I had a domestic package seized recently. Got a letter in the mail. Reship went through, though.
AK80I've never had anything seized from buying anything in over 20 years. Although in 2003 I did get a cease & desist letter in the mail when Satan's Playhouse got busted for selling Direct TV & Dish satellite TV card stuff. It's just not a thing really domestically. Especially when the source does everything on their end the right way.
Just don’t put your name on any of them
AK80That can actually backfire, especially with a disgruntled mail worker, but everyone's mileage will vary.
No.
It's happened. Last year there were about 4 or 5 sources that had domestic seizures, we were one of them. Very strange situation and nothing came of it for any of the sources or the receivers but it does happen occasionally.
No
I think the flagging address therory comes from Internet forums and gets repeated over and over again for years until it appears as fact. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. But to say it’s “100% true” with zero proof is foolish. My opinion is based on the fact that I’ve been doing this a long time and estimate I’ve gotten 20 or so letters over the many years.
The only time I’ve seen someone get jammed up, and again this is 30 years of international experience, is when ordering huge bulk obviously for resale, raws or fent. I don’t think our government has the time, resources or desire to bother going after personal use orders.
Regardless, there will be many that say your address is absolutely flagged with no firsthand knowledge expect something they read on a document or heard from their neighbors, friends, cousins, best friend.
Just think of if they flagged every address for drugs, ammo, steroids, counterfeit clothes, food not allowed internatiol, unmarked batteries, etc there would be a list of 7 billion addresses. They are looking to bust someone that they 1. Convince a judge its worth getting a search warrant 2. Worth getting 5 different agencies involved 3. If you are a menace to society and need to be taken off the street and 4. You have enough to sell and make income and not pay taxes on . If your 12 10ml order doesnt make it worth all 4 then you are good.
AK80If they were smart or had the resources, they should be flagging the RETURN addresses. Yes, they take a picture of the front and back of every piece of mail when it goes through their facility. There's no denying that. This is the part where the source picks an empty lot or some place that doesn't exist. Part of the fun whenever my stuff arrives is Google Earthing that. It's actually pretty hilarious sometimes. Love the freebies they toss in sometimes too.
So for those that have mentioned their original shipment was repshipped only to be held up again iike the first shipment, wouldn't that be flagging of an address? I mean I've heard that issue happen with orders not being huge. To me that would seem like flagging but what do I know lol.
@DeeMan sorry to rehash this old post but there’s a way around this but idk if I can post it on the open forum I’ll Dm ya
I don’t think so. I gotten many letters and still get 95% of my packs. This is years and years of experience and several hundred packs. I think it has more to do with bad luck, random pack inspections and periods of enhanced enforcement. I don’t not believe Customs really pays much attention to seized packs for personal use.
Man I’m in a predicament right now and reading what you’re saying puts me a little at ease as I’m out of other people to send to the source tried sending to me and got my letter source reshipped my packs to a different address in a different town shit a different state very close to mine (friend of mine) and same shit nabbed in the same customs office so I’m o for 2 now the source says let’s keep trying he will figure something out whatever that means but should I just try again to it address??
I've yet to see a small or medium sized order from you man. You order big brother!
Yeh but this one was big but like 2-3 of a bunch of stuff lol
Lol I told ya those Godzilla type sized orders would catch up to ya! Nah hope it all works out for you.
I wouldn’t want to make that decision for you. Best I can do is share my experience, a lot of it, and you make the best decision for you. I’ve never thought making up names or sending stuff to other addresses was a good idea. My mail carrier knows who lives at my house and getting random packs in different names would look odd.
Oh when I had it sent to the other address I used the persons name who lives there ..this is the second time I’ve had stuff (taken with letter sent) but the last time was almost 20 years ago in a different city….im all for having it reshipped to me again I mean we know damn well we’re taking risks and yea its a big order but not along the lines of redistribution or anything and I had a pack back in December from this same source come to me no issues but as mentioned 2 addresses 2 different names even different towns/states and both scooped up by customs within 45 days….sad face….very sad face even so now what the hell do I do uhhggghh
O Ok. Ordering international isn't really my thing so I'm not too familiar. Alot of reships lately though. I know some folks may disagree with you but I appreciate your input.
AK80Certain things can safely be bought nowadays without fear of customs. I just got a nice Omega watch (it's a super clone too with the red warranty card and box too so no need to flame lol) for $450. They go for nearly $9,000 but it's the way you PAY for it and WHERE you pay for it, etc. that makes it all work flawlessly. Years ago they'd yank that shit in a heart beat. The game is all different nowadays.
Nice! Looks like you gotta good deal...$8,550 worth of a good deal lol
Yeah. I get it. Everyone needs to make their own decisions regarding comfort level. The thing is I have yet to find someone or read something legit that actually says your address gets flagged and my experience is doesn’t support that theory.
I follow you. Understood
I don’t exactly buy into the “name on a list” thing.
I’m only speaking from experience, and have only ordered “gear” about 5 times now. All were domestic except the first but no problems with any…. However, before I realized I needed gear I ordered Viagra about 15 times starting around 7 years ago. I’m assuming they all were from India from the voices, and it was about 50/50 in terms of getting seized.
Then I moved into a new home in 2020 and the first order was good. Second order seized. Same o same old.
What I do now, if I really want something internationally, is wait until Christmas when they are too overwhelmed to give a shit about little things. Otherwise, yeah, I’d stick to domestic man. It’s worth it to pay a little more in my opinion.
AK80Or pay LESS if you use #1 or #3 US source :-)
anvilThey absolutely flag your address, this isn't theory. Someone asks for help on an issue on this board, my opinion matters very little in this case. I don't want someone to raided as it really sucks. There are many factors that go into a Federal investigation. The methods currently being used to ship by sources are not from the same address the only repeatable factor is that the recipient is the same. Using cash apps and other methods of payment that link directly to your bank account make these an easy trace back to you.
Lists are very very real, the thing is the names on them aren’t. I’d hope “John Doe” never uses the name John Doe and has those packages to his address. An officer makes contact with you and asks you for ID, that’s recorded. You’re on a list. Buy a firearm, you’re on a list. Buy two handguns at the same time and the FFL is legally obligated to tell the ATF. One seizure letter for steroids? Maybe that address is flagged, three times? Definitely and depending on the amount further action may be taken. In the end, especially at the federal level, do they care about a 40yo guy with a few vials and some tablets in his basement home gym? No. But rest assured that guy is on a list. I’d bet big money a few of us are on lists, some more than one. Everything changed after the patriot act, yes they watch people. But here’s the thing, don’t be an asshole, don’t cause trouble. Be a good American. They tend to respect you if you respect them and what they do for our great country. Definitely not looking for an argument with you my friend, but lists are a very real thing. Why do you think @87 has his internet server in Djibouti?
AK80Funny how a girl that wants to be a guy for messed up reasons in the head it's totally OK (in fact, in the courtroom they'd probably even let you inject during your testimony as evidence and cheer you on "go girl! ooops, we mean guy now?") but when a guy wants to lose weight to be healthier you go to jail.
Oh I’m definitely on any and every list the unconstitutional ATF keeps. That’s for damn sure. Then the list for having concealed carry permit. I just know for a fact they don’t have the resources to pursue guys getting $400 worth of vials shipped internationally to their house. I also don’t believe in shipping things to your house under a false name. That brings unnecessary scrutiny. My mail person comes every day, sees me outside, knows my name, etc. You think they wouldn’t raise an eyebrow seeing a wrong pseudonym? They’ll either flag that shit in their system or deliver it to the wrong address as every neighborhood has similar sounding street names/numbering. Their mind can easily read “1234 Apple Rd” as “1234 Apple Dr” because the name is unfamiliar and now your gear is 4 streets over at a strangers house. And they could open that shit and call the cops.
In same camp as you. When making a purchase I've been torn about using a false name. Felt like it could give you some sort of plausible deniability. But on the other hand like you mentioned, wouldn't that raise a flag by having a completely different name on a package being delivered.
I agree with this man, I chat it up with my mail girl all the time and she would for sure know something was weird if all of a sudden there was a pseudo on a pack. I think about that all the time when people advise using a fake name when ordering. What I do though, is write RTS or Return to Sender on the pack and leave it unopened for about a week or so, whenever I feel more comfortable and then open it.
Also with some crimes/states using a fake name could mean extra charges, like identity theft, fraud, impersonating, etc