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I'm looking for a couple different ingredients for liver care while on a cycle..has anyone heard of milk thistle helping?
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Tudca, N2 Guard, Liv52.
BandoleroIf you talk to a good pharmacist they will tell you the MiC blend works just as good as prescription drugs at de-fatting the liver. Methionine inositol choline. Add s-acetyl-l-glutathione on top of it nothing could be better.
We use Synthergine exclusively. I have seen proof of it effects numerous times thru lab work and I'm a firm believer.
Milk thistle is a scam go whith liv 52 or liver care
Milk thistle: DOES NOT WORK
24thanSilymarin would protect your liver just fine. To me it worked better than LIV 52 and I had DS version. You need to take higher doses (I used about 7g all together, but had powder extract), split throug the day.
It is cheap and not hard to get. Look for Milk thistle extract.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/422884_5
here you will find everything you need to know and there you can read many clinical study results or just abstracts.
have a nice day
backonroidsLiv.52DS is decent , no alcohol lol cranberry juice plenty of water
Ps to elaborate i never said milk thistle on its own and never recommended any of them in conjunction with particular steroids, simply put in a list of common supps people use. I run milk thistle year round, when on a cycle the amount i take personally is alot and not alone, the dosage of the capsules i use are - 35,000mg strongest available and on bottle it says 1 a day, i take 9- 3 morn 3 afternoon 3 night alongside 10 liv 52 tabs a day, 4 vitamin e, 4 vitamin c, 500mg of tudca ( 2 tabs) i drink a shit tonne of water, super green shakes that include beetroot (nutri blast) - you cant find anything solid on milk thistle except its a strong anti oxidant- stop oxidisation and its a free scavenger so it is very beneficial either way, when people try killing them selves with prescription meds like panadol/ tylenol the emergency room staff inject - nac for liver. People who overdose on death cap mushrooms they inject milk thistle. As for the op get ya fkn stats and cycle up.
35,000mg is 35g...that's a pretty big capsule you're taking there. My Whey scoop only holds 30g. I'm guessing you meant mcg.
U guessed wrong.
Ok...since the Mayo Clinic recommends 800mg per day for liver protection, what further benefit do you see in taking 43 times the daily recommended amount - plus all the other stuff? I'm curious as, all the supplements you are taking have to be processed by your liver. http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/milk-thistle/dosing/hrb-2005....
Edit: I see that you said you take 9 a day - so that's 387 times the daily recommended amount - perhaps a little excessive?
Yes I've read a few studys on the NAC for overdose.
That's a big fucking list of supps flash lol...
TronTUDCA.
This is a great read:
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/best-liver-pr...☕
Ursodeoxycholic acid is what you want
All other liver Supps are bullshit
It's called choleostasis, a backup of bile secreting from your gallbladder to your liver. That "heartburn" feeling you get from orals is exactly that, a misfunctioning of bile secretion. Shit will damage your liver if you don't pay attention to it
are you saying bile backs up into your stomach and is the cause of heartburn?
Ehhh...well I don't know the exact details. "Not really". As far as I understand it, the flow of bile is stopped or slowed...backing up. The heartburn feeling we get is due to the lack of bile for digestion, hence you could beginning choleostasis.
UDCA?
isn't TUDCA a more upgraded version? And otc.
We need a script in the UK for UDCA
I guess you can use TUDCA. Virtually same thing. "updated" isn't superior or inferior, as idk it was just recommended to me that might was well buy UDCA. TUDCA converts to UDCA once consumed, soooo.....yea. And yes you might need script...or you can buy it off research chemical companies. I know of one, in the us
Have you used them before???
Any chance you could pm me details??
I found some on eBay....it comes from Japan,I'm not kean on pulling the trigger on that one lol
I do have a place. I'll send it to ya
While on cycle milk thistle isn't going to cut it at all..
You didnt even say what you was or are taking, how much......You say just cycle.....cycle of what.......
Like flash said down below those are great to use....
This question could have easily been answered if you would only do a little research in your own....
Then after research come here and post your findings then talk about each liver care products and there benefits.....
To many people just throw up a question and don't research at all seems anymore......
Tudca, milk thistle, liv 52, essential forte n, tumeric, vitamin c, vitamin e, beetroot juice, anti oxidants and water.
Good products, to bad he couldn't have done some research and find this as well.....smh.....
how about shut it didn't ask for your cocky ass comments other people actually gave me information which this site is used for so fuck off
You asked EVERYONE dumb ass when you posted in a open forum.......
So what are you asking......what are you running......what oral or orals.......
Best of luck to you since you're doing so good here already.....must be doing something right with -5 karma....keep up the good work.....
I guess that's a pic of you to as your avitar......
actually I'm not a computer geek like yourself obviously the only life you have is this site you low life fuck I could really give to shits about my karma ..what is this 3rd grade you get a karma point if your good boy...fucking wack job
Says you who joined this site you hypocritical fuck!!!
I thought we where friends.....lol......
You and flash are right these products need to be used in conjunction for best effectiveness, but who wants to spend 120 bucks or so on enough liver care products to make it through $150 cycle?
steroids are probably the cheapest thing in a cycle.
You play you pay bro, you only have 1 liver and sometimes you can't say I won't do that again if it's to late...
100% Unfortunately most people don't go out and do their research or take care of themselves. There's so many people at my gym running ridiculous amounts for cycles and I have no clue what a ai is or PCT. after I explain the things I've learned to keep my body safer their response is I don't need that shit. Oh well, hopefully I can help with at least one person someday.
You're helping now by being responsible and talking sense bro.....
There's plenty of scientific evidence supporting milk this'll for liver regeneration. You're Next bet is water, and if you're using orals it's definitely something to definitely consider
Milk thistle is complete BOLLOCKS mate.
I've been using liver/kidney supplements for just over a year now for a future post (supported) with bloodwork.
And I can tell you now that even off cycle milk thistle does nothing to change liver values good or bad.
However there is a few that do work but won't do much good if the yellow is already done.
To get these supplement to do there job they should be introduced well before the cycle is started.
What I've found is WATER is the best liver support you will ever find.
But this was all done on my body so things that didn't work for me might for others?
Because over the years the active ingredient in milk thistle has been getting less and less. You have to source it to get top quality and then you have to take it 3 times a day for it to do anything beneficial. Its another expensive product as far as dosing is concerned. Turmeric and tudca are some good ones and DBG hit the nail on the head for the bst, but that is also being harder to get as far as active ingredients. Big Pharma wont stop until all natural remedies are fkn gone and they drug us to death.
Couldn't agree more MACK....I've never used UDCA before as I can't source it anywhere and it's prescription only in the UK.
What I found has worked best for me is choline and inositol with lots of water.
As for big pharma nail on the head mate buying out smaller companies then slowly change ingredients of products till eventually your not even getting what you thought you were. Your getting a "better" version of said product.
A fucking chemical concoction
Case in point red yeast rice or whatever it was called.
The active ingredient in it is gone but they still sell it in stores. Big pharma fought to get it removed and now it has less then 2% of the active chemical. If people only knew half of shit theyvwouldnt take it.
Another one, Vitamin C comes from sheeps wool, any of the ones you buy from wally world or walgreens is sourced from sheep wool. I buy mine in powder form from fruits through a company on amazon. Research every and all vitamins and other shit you put in your body and you just might not use it anymore lol.
Mate - it's Vitamin D from sheep's wool - not Vitamin C. http://www.vitamindwiki.com/How+vitamin+D+is+made+from+sheep+wool+-+Feb+...
You are correct, I had my letters wrong. vitamin c is synthetic and from china, ascorbic acid is the synthetic version of vitamin c.
Here is another interesting read
http://www.precisionnutrition.com/all-about-vitamin-supplements
+1. Good read...thanks.
X2 my vitamin c comes from fruit.
I use the liposomal vitamin c...
I guess the fuckers strike again.....smh......
Greedy horrible scum they are zeb!
These are the fuckers sitting on cancer cures but want people with nothing to pay a fortune for it
Yep I agree 100%
You've got me going through my cupboard now lol..
Fucking sheep's wool?? WTF.
Like I said earlier it's a shame we don't have a way of testing our supps also.....would make for a very entertaining read I reckon
Or a nice class action lawsuit against them, but they are covered because you are still buying exactly whats on the label, its like tobacco with no nicotine in it, you are still buying tobacco. They cover their asses quite well. I wish I was still naieve sometimes because the more you know, the dumber you are.