posted Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:55
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Winstrol/Test Prop Cycle Help
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What's up everybody,
Was getting things together in order to run a Winstrol / Test Prop cycle for 6 weeks. Had couple questions concerning this, since this will be my second time running this cycle. Had a lot of success with 125mg Test EOD and 50mg Winny ED for 6 weeks.
Just wanted to know if :
A) I should run an AI while on this cycle?
B) If I should run test longer then 6 weeks
C) What is best PCT for this cycle? (mg, how many times a week, which to choose 'novladex or clomid')
Any feedback would be great, I am trying to research and find out best way to go about this cycle and see best results.
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Rusty, Mind if I message you?
RustyhookerAll the info is there brother. If ed pins worry you the long esters are better.
Got the PCT down and ready to go, just quick question concerning the dosage of the Test prop. Is 125mg EOD sufficient or bump it up to 150? Don't need crazy changes within Test levels, something stable, as I would be running my cycle (newly appointed) as 8 weeks Test Prop and weeks 2-8 with Winstrol incorporated into it.
Rustyhooker125 should be good. It's about the same in weight as 500mg enenthate.
Ok, last question I have concerning the cycle as a whole. More advantageous to run 10 weeks or stick to the 8 week listing?
RustyhookerShort esters I like 8. 8 cycled...4 weeks pct...12 weeks off...Blood test....go again IF body is back to normal. Pre cycle bloods will help judge recovery. If not recovered, wait a few.
Ok, thanks a lot for your help.
RustyhookerAnytime! Short esters can be fun when you're at or very near goal weight. If pip isn't too bad, it's eat and grow. Click my avitar and check my pip forum. Every lil bit helps. Learn and share
Weight is where I want it, BF % is main concern even though its pretty good atm (about 9% for a Middle Linebacker) just want to take it down to 6% with lean muscle mass, weight is not issue it can flux, I will take a look at your forum however.
RustyhookerGiven those facts, a short ester should be fun. As long as pip doesn't get ya too bad. Enjoy!
Hey guys, still have not started anything yet and waiting on more information to roll in. I was suggest this by fellow member..
"About a week after my last injection if you're only using Prop - 10 days to two weeks if your using a long ester Test, I would begin Clomid 100mg ED and 40 mg Nolv ED for a week then 75/30 - 50/20 - 25/10 for a total of four weeks. 500mg of HCG 3 times per week is a good idea while you're on cycle up until the last week but it's not a crucial with a light cycle. If you do run a heavy cycle for a long period without the use of HCG, you may need to blast about 1000mg ED for 5 days to kick start your testes and hope they come back to life."
Opinion?!?
Rustyhooker2 days after prop is pct
2 weeks if enanthate
No hcg
Rework pct.
RustyhookerStill waiting. You ask...then we wait? Cmon dude...Learn here
I apologize, I have been very busy last couple days and have not had time to check in here. My schedule is now clear, and also took time to review, research, ask around, etc. So far, this is what I have came up with, please let me down easy if wrong and guide me if mistaken, do not need negative feedback.
week 1-5 Clomid 25-50mg/ED
week 1-5 Nolva 20mg/ED
*Aromasin 25mg/ED OR Arimidex 0.5-1mg/ED
(Use AI if sides occur)
I still have not found conclusive evidence or responses concerning the AI and when exactly it should be used. Some claim it should be used during the cycle if side effects occur, others say it can be used PCT wise to help maintain estrogen levels. Still confused when it comes to that.
AnonI would run the cycle for 8 weeks instead of 6. I cant really comment on the winny, I ran it once at 75mg/day for 6 weeks. Didnt care for it, wouldn't run it again but everyone is different.
Run your ai from the start of the cycle, test prop kicks in kinda quick. Adex at .25mg eod or aromasin 12.5mg everyday. You may have to adjust the dose based on sides/bloodwork etc. Start low and increase as needed, crashing your estro fucking sucks.
Pct nolva 40/40/20/20, clomid 100/100/50/50. I run a small dose of aromasin in pct, 6.25mg/day. Do not run adex in pct.
RustyhookerI typically start aro on day 10 at 6.25ed and adjust as/if needed.
Adex .25e3d ...If estro appears .5e3d. ..If still problem .25eod.
PCt 2 days after last dose of prop and winny.
Bloods done week 2 to adjust ai. Privatemdlabs.com the female hormone panel is $59.
Estro is a tricky game unfortunatly. Low estro and gains stop. Too high and nips get sore. Estro is good in range for many reasons. But it does take practice.
Winny last 4 weeks imo. Run liver aids with 17aa.
AnonYeah I gotta run my ai and dose a bit sooner/higher but that's just me. Im sure he could wait and see how the sides are, I just know my body by now so no need to wait. Good call and good info sir
RustyhookerExactly! You know your body so cycles are a lot easier. Makes a huge difference. Short cycles are turbo charged. Hope the op gets everything needed incase issues arise
My first one I ran Letro for AI and then Clomid for following 4 weeks PCT. How is this a second account I just created it? I tried finding more info on this specific cycle but could not find much. Reasoning behind this is because I will be training extremly hard for Pro-Day and NFL combines. I know diet and training and will also be doing it under expert trainers in that aspect before hand. I'm sorry if you feel I'm wasting time, but I thought this was a place to ask questions and gather knowledge before I do this type of thing. I'm simply requesting input and seeking what experts know from this community. I'm 25, 6'1 I have a middle linebacker size frame. I weigh 218. Bench = 405 Squat = 560 Power clean = 340 BF % currently is around 10%
RustyhookerUp top there's pulldowns. Forums...ai/pct. Read the stickies etc. Look at Nolvadex and clomid. Take reading into adex for ai. Unless blood tests show estro issues.
Post your findings and then we'll put it together
I edited your text. What's left is sound advice.
Take the lead of others that had posted before you on this one.
Thanks
RustyhookerIt's standard here to get some REAL stats before spoon feeding the newbs.
AnonThis is your second time running this cycle and you are just now asking these questions? Wtf did you do on your first run for ai and pct, nothing?
Why waste our time.... Do a little research on the site and you'll find all of your answers.
Rustyhookeryou're back again with a new account? Post real stats up here asap.
Your back, 2nd account today. .