test p kickstart beginner cycle
I am planning my first cycle to start in 6-8 weeks. I am 5'9, 190 and around 18% bf...working on last bit of cut before i start, plan on being 175 before cycle I am planning on running test e 500mg/wk for 15 weeks but was thinking about a prop kickstart 150mg/eod for 4 weeks. I know the idea of the first cycle is to run a single compound to learn how your body reacts. I figured since it would be about 4 weeks before the test e kicks in I could run test p and still be able to tell how my body reacts to it...if there is a problem its a short ester so should be out of blood fast. I am also taking into consideration that my first cycle will have the most gains so i figured i would benefit from raising blood levels as fast as possible. please advise for or against. i will post cycle log with layout, diet and workout plans after I get some feedback. thanks for the help
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naguib123if ur 18% BF , ur prone to gyno, lose some BF first, get down to 13% atleast
copy that, im cutting more fat still, i was advised 90 more days so im gonna take the advice, goal is 175 to start so should put me in the 12-13 region. thx for the input
naguib123there are other way to lose fat...other than going crazy on the treadmill and just cutting weight (muscle & fat)...why don't we focus on another way to lose fat alone... the best way is too do long easy low intensity cardio. low intesity cardio doesnt threaten your body in taking out the muscle, its true on high intesity you will lose more calories but those calories come from burning muscles and fat, so why dont you take the smart easy way of doing low intesity cardio which will allow for fat burning only. you could lose 2 lbs of fat a week with no effort doing walking or jogging, u just gotta do cardio for a longer time (60 min+) a day, and u wont need to wait 90 days for a cycle at that rate, maybe 45 days
im training for a tough mudder so that is why im trying to keep the cardio intensity up somewhat. im not goig to start the cycle until after im done and recovered from it so time isnt an issue. i upped my protein to 1.5g/lb in hopes of saving as much muscle as possible, i take in 50g immediately after every workout. any other suggestions as to what i can do to spare as much muscle as possible while still keeping the cardio somewhat intense
naguib123none that i can think of, good luck bud.
Thanks to all who responded! I appreciate the help and guidance. Cannot wait to be ready to start. Think the adrenaline of anticipation will have me tearing up the gym even more for the nets few months in preparation
zewiAnytime--always come in and ask..
zewiYour Diet is important get that in control first and hit the gym/cardio hard. Get your body running at its peak the next 90days before you start your cycle—And do not do a 15 week cycle to start—do a 12 week cycle. As for prop—I say on this cycle stay away from it. Introduce one compound at a time IMO. Next Cycle do a 1-4 Test prop kicker and end with test prop. Here you go your next 2 cycles.
Cycle 1
DIET DIET DIET
Week 1-12 Diet Diet Diet(cardio and hit the gym hard)
Week 12-24 Test E @500mg a week (Monday/Thursday)
Arimidex .25mg e3d to keep bloating down and estrogen in check go to .5mg e3d if nipples become sensitive, or .5mg ed.
If you have hcg 500iu a week
Start PCT 15days after last shot—take Arimidex up until you start PCT
PCT Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
Next 4 months DIET DIET DIET(hit gym hard/cardio)
Cycle 2
Next cycle.
1-4 Test P 100mg EOD
1-12 Test E @ 500mg a week (Monday/Thrusday)
13-14 Test P 100 mg EOD
Arimidex .25mg e3d to keep bloating down and estrogen in check go to .5mg e3d if nipples become sensitive, or .5mg ed.
If you have hcg 500iu a week
Start PCT 3days after last shot—take Arimidex up until you start PCT
PCT Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
hell yeah zewi, you tha man yo. i been in the midst of sorting out exactly what doses and timing of test p and e i want to run for my second cycle, and this exact post has laid it all out in black and white perfectly. also, the HCG dosing and timing answered my other question to a T. good lookin out for us new to gear! i'd plus one you but i'm not allowed to yet lol
Love it bro. Solid as it gets!
No problem with the 90 days...had already planned 60 days ahead so 4 weeks more is nothing. Will an opened vial last for four months till next run. I have no problem shortening it to 12 weeks. I only initially said 15 weeks bc 3 10ml vials @ 500Mg a week was 15 weeks worth, just didn't want to waste it
zewiyes it will just keep it clean in a dark place and upright. Just save the rest when you start the next cycle.
Yeah no problem bro.. just keep it upright in a dark place.
Nice brother... excellant first run and youve done all the work for him lol... +3 well deserved.
gotta get some rest in, please leave input, dont want anyone to think im ignoring it, ill respond to anything else first thing in the am. thanks for the input powerhouse and boots, it is greatly appreciated
IMO use the first four weeks to even greater your fat loss with diet aand cardio ect. u could use it at 19%bf. Then at the forth week, you will be even more ready for the test to start muscle building. Theres no rush bro, the first cycle while YES very special is more like any first in life...TRIAL AND ERROR! YES you are gonna make mistakes , wether its knowing ur diet could have been better or training scheduele should have been more of a... scheduele.. get meal plans down , workouts set , meals planed for the week, pinning scheduel.. ect. you are not going to know how ur body is gonna handle all of this ur first cycle its much diff then usual. And i dont believe the first cyc is the best gains, only in the sense that ur body will do the best with the least amount of gear u will ever have to use. The best gains come from the knowledge u will pick up along the way and how u use it. Take it slow and enjoy the cyc bro.
so are you saying use the prop kick as somewhat of a cutter?
no prop. itd be a waste , diet and cardio first 4 weeks then when the test kicks u ll be ready.
i cant see why that would be a issue since it's the same compound just a faster ester. you need to def kick up the diet before you start this cycle with that much bf%..
do you think 175 is a low enough starting weight? that would put me at about 12% bf
ah you can loose the bf% without loosing good solid gains, how is your diet? you will hate looking 175 after you weigh 190 now, i lost some weigh i didnt want to loose and i wanted to headbutt the mirror every morning, also how is your cardio?
cardio 3x week 4-6 mile run, thinking about bumping it to 4 days but every time I do i end up having an IT band problem so its a double edged sword. I just downed my cals a bit but upped my protein, diet = 300g protein 50g fat 30g carbs. just switched from a refeed every 2 weeks to 100 carbs every 3rd day, trying to keep the muscle but i know my bf is a problem so I am between a rock and a hard place
okay are you running before you workout or after? sounds dumb but it really does matter. how do you have energy to even work out with only 30g of carbs? i feel like i have that in my morning yogurt.. how is your sugar as well? sugars will store fat.
cardio in am on empty stomach, weights in evening. it took some getting used to but I have adapted to the very low carbs. i take a double dose of 1MR and NO3 before workout and it always gets me thru. not in love with the no carbs but it is killing it on cutting weight
damn.. well are you big boned ..lol. i mean damn your hardly eating anything that's fat, sugar, carbs in it.. i dont understand.. maybe a fat burner before you start your cycle? ah maybe someone else could chime in on whats going on.. btw how long are you staying in the gym?
i fell out of shape quick, let work take over, if you saw my genetic pool you would have a better understanding. sadly im in the best shape out of 95%+ of my extended family. i cut back to working part time now and going back to school to finish my degree so I can focus on my overall helth. i started out at 2200 cal/day just recently dropped it down. iv dropped 35 lbs in a little over 10 weeks..., think i have lost some muscle in the process so thats probably part of the problem.
gym is an hour to hour and a half