first cycle thoughts
First and foremost, I know my body fat is too high to begin this cycle right now...Unfortunately I became a fat lazy piece of crap for a little while due to work taking up all my time. Im in a cutting diet right now and will wait for 12-15% body fat before starting. Just want to have everything in line so I can start when im ready. I played soccer and rugby throughout college, have been lifting for 7 years (up until 2 months ago I was out of the gym for a year). Workout consists of cardio 6 days a week weights 4 days on 1 day off. Diet is in check, at moment the moment im eating 2100 cal/day (250g protein, 25 g. fat, 50 g. carbs). Of course this will be upped on cycle just need to get the bf cut. Please critique cycle I have laid out below and let me know if I have anything out of line.
Weeks 1-3 - 50mg Tbol ed
Weeks 1-4 - 250 mg Test E
Weeks 5-12 - 500 mg Test E
Weeks 13-16 - 50 mg Var ed
AI - Adex .5 mg eod
PCT
Weeks 17-12 - Nolva 40/40/20/20
Liv 52 during oral cycles, glucosamine throughout, fish oil throughout
Is there anything im missing?
thanks in advance for your help!
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Always use liver support either with or without orals,my advice would be to DOUBLE daily dosage when using ANY form of oral steroid.
PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN CURE.
sounds good. ill run cycle cycle as advised when bf is down. thanks
i figured tbol to start before test kicked in, var to harden at end of cycle but can wait on these if it is too complicated of a first cycle. i wouldnt start anything before i get my body fat down to 15 % or less. im turning 26 in a month...had my natural test levels ran so to make sure it wouldnt hinder natural production and it is 387 ng/dl. based on this i believe my natural test has peaked... additional bf may cause levels to rise some but should be nominal. iv waited to start cycle but think i should be fine now. thanks for the feedback!
tread - whats the benefit of aromasin over arimidex? also i should go right to test at 500mg? only reason i went with 250mg to start was to assess my reaction. 500 is good to start?
tread-mIts a long conversation but let me touch on your concerns. Aromasin seems to get the job done better for me over adex but either is fine. As to test 500 start, thats just a good sweetspot for a first cycle with nice effect if diet is dialed in and you know the carb work for whatever goal you want, carbs kind of control the goal as it were. A long ester cycle takes about a month to kick so by the time you begin at 250 to "assess" and decide its fine and try to increase you're 6 weeks into a 12 week run. I'd kick off with 500 split for the whole roll and let your diet take you to the goal. Remember, your natty is going to shutdown so this is about twice many people standard trt doses so you're in a nice place at 500. Do the work here in the kitchen and drink plenty of water minimizing salt and all should go very well.
tread-mTest at 500 split, aromasin at 6.25 eod unless it needs to be pulled. Hcg if desired @ 300 iu's twice per week in the final two weeks. Two weeks after last pin begin clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolv 40/40/20/20. Simple, learn the compounds and their effect on you and your predisposition to estro and shbg spike, don't complicate this and do it right so you learn to manipulate your goals easier over time. Simple test run game over. If you're under 25 lets talk about that otherwise, diet is the goal brother.
Cut bodyfat before starting unless you want to be the "fat strong" guy. The var would be useless and a waste of money with your bf so high. Also three weeks of var would not be optimal in itself even with the proper bf. I realize you said that you're going to cut bf...I can't stress enough to make sure its good to go when you start. You'll be much happier with the results. Stick to test only for your first cycle. No need to complicate things. Like Pelon said, throw clomid in with nolva for pct.
Way too many orals first cycle just do test and ai for 12 week
Also do clomid for your pct and nolva