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Test E / T Bol cycle questions

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Hi all,

I am about to start my 5th cycle and just curious what others think of the cycle. I have run 3 Var only cycles in the past plus a 300mg test E with 40mg TBol cycle last year.
I train consistently 5 days a week, diet is on point & BF is around 12%.
My goal is a lean bulk.
The cycle I am looking to do is:
Week 1-14 Test E 600mg a week
Week 1-6 TBol 60mg ED
Week 8-12 Winstrol 60mg ED
Week1-14 .5mg of Arimidex EOD

I also will be running N2Guard to help with liver support.

PCT with be a mix of Clomid & Nolvadex for 4 weeks, 2 weeks after my last pin.

Will the Arimidex be needed or shall I just keep it on hand if any sides appear?

Would swapping the Winstrol for Var be a better option?

Looking forward to hear all your opinions ----

papa.smurf0311's picture

I wouldnt run two orals, especially winny. That stuff will turn your joints into glass. and if youre trying to bulk, thats not what you want. I suppose 600 a week test is ok but If you are a smaller guy then you could get away with like 400 a week. but thats just me. and like the others said, .5 adex EOD will most like crush your E2.

Makwa's picture

Winni has no place for a bulk. Drop it. Guaranteed to crash estro with that much AI, especially starting week 1. You have only ran 1 actual cycle of test and that was 300mg. Forget about any orals this cycle and just go with the test e.

BrainsNGainz's picture

Arimidex at 1.5-2mg per week sounds like it will nuke your E2 unless you know you're a high aromatizer. If you're not sure just keep it on hand and have bloods confirm what your E2 is like on the 600 Test. On 350 Test with 500iU HCG I needed only 0.25mg Adex/week.

For the Tbol wait to start it until week 3 (run Weeks 3-8) when your test levels are building up, will be more bang for your buck that way considering Tbol will increase unbound test. Imo the first 2 weeks of Test-E don't even count as part of the "cycle" lol, it's the warmup before the game actually starts.

See the "Winny or Anavar" thread for more opinions on that, seems like most prefer the Var though. Personally I've been avoiding Winny because glass joints sounds scary.

I'm using NPP right now and the cushy joint support & fullness is wonderful, can't imagine what the opposite would be like. I'm adding Var later into my cycle and dropping the NPP to a minimal effective dose so joints stay nice until the end.