posted Sun, 04/28/2013 - 17:57
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Switching from tren based cycle back to test
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I've been running a test base cycle for the last 7 months, switching from Dbol, to Eq, to tren, etc., every 5 to 10 weeks. About 7 weeks ago I started a test p and tren ace run at 100 mg of tren and 50 mg of prop ED. I'm near the end of this tren run and want to jump on a Sustanon/EQ cycle at 750 mg of Sustanon and 600 mg of EQ a week. So my plan is to bridge for 3 weeks to my new cycle. My question is this... Since I've been running my tren at a higher dose than my test do I need to taper down on the tren and at the same time increase my test to get back on that test base that I normally run. Or can I just finish up my current cycle, and bridge to the new one and start running the new doses on that cycle?
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I personally think you need to make a plan and stick with it. All this switching of compounds isn't going to get you anywhere unless there's a rhyme and reason. I see you switched out EQ before it even started working. If you want to incorporate Boldenone use a short ester if you're going to implore these tactics. I run compound switching cycles every now and then but it's much different than what you're doing. I'll use a test base and blast short esters. Basically running the long ester test and every 4-5 weeks switching between npp, tren a, mast p, bold a, primo a etc. Your question about tapering off tren. No you don't have to taper off. Just increase your test dose and drop the tren when you're done with it. Honestly, you're a TRT guy right? I would stop the blasting now! Clear your receptors. Run your trt for a couple months and give yourself a break. Get a plan together and stick with it. Just my $0.02. Here's a link that might help you do that.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/creating-steroid-...
I appreciate the link. I think the way I described my short ester bursts in between cruising on my TRT dose came off as poorly worded. Obviously I'm not running my bursts back to back without a little PCT and a good 4 to 6 week break in between. All I was trying to explain was that on my last burst I was running a higher dose of tren than test because I know that they fight for the same receptors. So in order to avoid excess sides and let the tren go to work that's what I did. Maybe the dose was a little extreme, but whatever. I just wanted to know whether or not I should taper down the tren and at the same time increase my test dose in order to get back to cruise control. Nonetheless I appreciate any helpful information that more experienced individuals have to offer.
wow, you guys are horrible here, the man is looking for help advice, ya his approach is stupid but he did say he is willing to LISTEN AND LEARN, what you guys are doing is crucifying him and will result and scaring beginners from asking questions, not cool.
I'm with this guy!
just remember mate its an open forum- any kid can read this!! they might decide to abuse steroids like this guy and think its ok as you guys will help!! think of it like that? the age for trt seems to be getting younger and younger lately? wonder why?
We're all here to discuss the topics we thread. Some people know more than others, some guys are willing to help and give advice. Nobody came out the womb with the knowledge of William Llewellyn or Dr. Colker...remember that MATE!!!
Guys chill. He's already on TRT as per his statement. He's been blasting and cruising and asking how to taper off into his next cycle. But I dont see any reason why you cant just finish the cycle. No need to taper I imagine unless you're coming off. I PERSONALLY would not keep cycling every 5 weeks imo
I appreciate your approach bro. Shoot me a friend request if u don't mind. Just looking for guidance and direction. I'm here to listen and learn, I'm new to this. I'm not trying to fuck myself up or be a statistic. A lot of these dudes ate coming at me with the "holier than thou" approach. But if they think back to their beginning in this game I'm sure they had to learn from someone somewhere too. I appreciate any help and advice brother, thanx.
I've read through your threads and I think it's probably coming across as you being more experienced than you are as you're using advanced compounds / cycles at an early stage in your AAS journey. Tren is what we would call an advanced compound, and most people struggle to run 12 weeks on it let alone many months! In that respect, it looks quite an outrageous cycle to an onlooker.
I don't think anyone I'd trying to bash you here mate, we're generally helpful. From what I can see you just need to slow it down and do a bit of reading before there's long term damage. If you're a beginner with AAS, run beginner cycles. If you need help with these, let me know.
You gotta be a troll. A couple days ago you posted about running a 7 month tren cycle. Either you're a troll, or so stupidly misinformed that you're gonna get what you deserve. You have a vast online reference here to give you proper info. You have a plethora of vets giving you advice, and yet you ask a question like this. You sir are ignorant and you will be TRT for life. Don't waste your $$$ on clomid or Nolva or HCG. Your only hope (if you pull your head out of your ass and actually want to recover) is triptorelin. Stop running gear, you will become the next poster boy for the media to use to villainize aas.
He's already on TRT. he mentioned his HRT doc. No need to call him stupid and such. I take it he's been blasting and cruising and asking how to downsize it.
Listen bro...I don't appreciate u calling me a troll. I'm new to this shit, OBVIOUSLY. I'm looking for some guidance from more experienced individuals like yourself. If you're willing to help me out than I'm willing to listen and practice what you preach. If I wasn't than I won't be here asking questions and looking for advice.
Fair enough bro, I wouldn't be the one to look to for advice since I'm not a TRT guy. However it still seems to me like you might be going a little heavy with your burst cycles. I'd imagine your receptors are pretty overloaded even though you are cycling different compounds. Good luck to you friend and I apologize for my previous comments, believe it or not they were coming from a place of concern.
I understand brother, I come across the same way at times. Apology accepted. I'm getting good advice from fellow brothers and I plan on following it.
Just start bumping the Prop dose up slowly ed and taper off tren. Makes sense to taper for me. cruise for a lil while then hit your next cycle. Good Luck (cus you wont listen to no one anyways if this is true)
I have heard of stories of people using this much. if your not joking than damn your one lucky SOB to be alive. I could not handle that much 7 months plus, well maybe, not alot of tren hell no. ANyways bro damn definately visit a doctor before PCT.
ANd definately try if possible blast Hcg alot at end of cycle. Go to doc tho man sounds serious. Fellow brother on here, always here for ya, hit me up im here to listen...
Milk thistle better be your best friend and vitamin b6 eh...
Do me a favor bro and shoot me friend request if u don't mind. Clearly I could use s little guidance here and that's all I'm looking for.
well if you dont know yet your gonna be on a test base for the rest of your life. as far as your question goes? you can do anything you want, however i dont think its gonna be very successful.
ok dont worry about, switching this to that, you better stop completely, get yourself a shitload of hcg,nolvadex,clomid and aromasin, then get your self of to dr/endocroligist
No really is this a joke!?.....please just shoot me now!
Chaz32621Im waiting for the o and im throwing in DNP, CLEN, T3 and HELIOS Every 5th week for five weeks
biggerthanyouMan this is a cluster fuck of I don't even know what. What are ur stats? Age, height weight body fat? I can tell you right now that unless you already are a trt guy, u likely will be now. Give me those stats and I can help you out. Do u know what an ai is?
Of course I know what an AI is brother. I've got my arimidex on hand along with my HCG. I've been trying like hell to get some aromasin but my sources either don't carry it or are outta stock. As far as my stats... 30 years old, 5'7", 215lbs, 19% BF. HRT under supervision of a doc. Just had a physical the other day. Obviously my HRT doc doesn't know about the tren. Last had my blood work done in October. Clearly I'm looking for some guidance here and appreciate any you can give me. I'm here to listen and learn that's why I'm asking questions. I'm new to the gear game as of September '12.
biggerthanyouWhat's up my man glad to see you responded!! Ok so if I were you I would drop everything except test right now. Continue to take test prop at 100 mg eod or 50mg ed if u prefer. Start taking hcg at 500 iu's 2x per week. Get some aromasin from the top rated HGH and peptide source on here. Begin taking that at 12.5 mg ed. Do you plan to stay on hrt? There are ways to come off and recover safely even after extended use. Anything you need PM me, I'm gonna send you a friend request
PS good to know u get bloods that is ESSENTIAL in this game
I appreciate you're input and advice bro. So I've got my HCG on hand, it's a 5000 IU kit from my HRT doc. Am I gonna need more or should I just run your suggested dose until I run out that 5000 IU kit? I'm gonna order that aramosin like yesterday. Thx for the direction on that btw, I've been having a hard time getting that. Is it ok to start the HCG without the aromasin on hand or should I wait and start them together? And my final question is how long should I run my 100mg of prop EOD before switching to the 250 blend? I'll leave out the EQ 300 outta respect for your time and consideration of helping me out ;) And stay with the test for a while. Thx again brother.
I forgot to answer your question too. And my answer is yes, I do plan to stay on HRT. I got extra dough to blow and this is where I prefer to spend it!!!
Chaz32621lol with all that shit in his body I dont think he even knows