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Most people know me for writing cycles that work. Some have asked me if there are any specific guidelines I use to write a cycle.
Here are some basics to think about when writing a cycle.
What are your goals - to lean out/ to bulk up/to wet bulk/ to dry or lean bulk etc.
What is your time frame - 8 weeks / 12 weeks/ 16 weeks / 22 weeks or 30 weeks.
What are the compounds you have access to.
What are the quantities of these compounds in total (grams or mgs)
What is your prior history to using AAS - if so do you have any sides
What are your favorite compounds of choice - are you open to using anything new?
How many days do you train - how good is your pre/post workout nutrition
Other factors I take into consideration are general experience to AAS. No point asking a first timer to combine short and long esters and throw in two orals.
By rule of thumb.
Keep your first cycle simple and easy
Run your first cycle with LONG esters
Always run your first cycle with a long ester of test
Bulking is EASIER with AAS than cutting so preferably try to bulk on your first cycle.
Don't try to achieve too many things in your first cycle. Your first cycle is all about trial - error - learning how compounds react to your body.
Understand how your diet works WITH your cycle. Acclimatize your bodies caloric needs to suit your cycle and the compounds you are using for your cycle.
Never EVER treat your body like a roller coaster. Blood levels take time to adapt so no point running an ester based hormone for a week and bump it up a few notches. What is the point?
Let your body adapt itself to exogenous supplementation slow and steady.
Remember a long ester is long for a reason. The delivery of the active is stretch over a longer time frame. Each time you run a long ester give yourself a minimum of 10 weeks. No point running a long ester for a short run and starting the PCT. Your active is still being released while you are dumping more chemicals into your body.
While using harsher compounds for the first time - start out low and work your way up. You can do more cycles and start out higher AFTER YOU KNOW HOW YOUR BODY REACTS.
Always - ALWAYS keep ancillaries at hand. Just because you didn't have estrogen conversion the first time around, does not mean your 3rd cycle will not give you gyno. Free metabolite action can never be perfectly gauged.
I can stress this enough but please don't try to accomplish too many things during one cycle. More does not mean better. Throwing in 50 different compounds is not going to do much.
A lot of people try to throw in fat burning ancillaries early on without prior experience. Imagine you have a blood condition, maybe elevated BP due to coagulation levels. You run clenbuterol and equipoise. You may not feel its effect ON cycle but you are just harming your body more and more.
A simple testosterone + equipoise cycle CAN give you as good effects if your diet and training are on perfect check as opposed to 10 fancy compounds and you not knowing what to eat and when.
Support supplements:
Just as important as ancillaries are cycle support supplements. Remember liver toxicity is both underrated and overrated in many cases. Here is a basic concept people forget, just because an oral is a methyl, the fact that it is a methyl is not what hits the liver but its ANDROGENICITY ratio. So a little research ALWAYS goes a long way.
Make sure you are taking the correct support supplements pertaining to your cycle and your basic supplements as always.
Hope this helps - let me know if you have questions. Stay safe and healthy
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Based on my research in this subject this post seems to be full of useful information. I think its covers pretty much all to consider when coming up with a cycle except one lil thing that people like me have to keep in mind and that is ...... Funds Availability . I was on my way to ordering my first cycle a few months ago til I realized I didn't have any PCT in my shopping cart so I got what a needed and wow the cost was as much as the gear! I started to proceed because I had bought extra bit coin anyway then saw shipping charges and that took me over what I had in coin . I was going to get more coin when I got paid that Friday but got laid off that Thursday so decided I better wait.
AnonI think we all hit that brick wall of, gear is actually the cheapest part. PCT, ancillaries, supps and, of course, FOOD. (Food budget - quality and volume...just fuck me.)
RustyhookerSmart!! Too many times ive seen folks shortcut to have big problems. Using promos for % off is the best way on real pct. Big stock up and be safe.
Pounds23This was about one of the best reads and advise iv seen in awhile I don't come into the forums alot but I was bored and figured I'd do some reading.... And I agree man exp ur first or CPL cycles keep it simple one or two injectables with an oral the simpler the better and the more u can concentrate on important things like clean foods and diet and training as hard as u can instead of thinking oh if I intro this compound I'll get bigger and more shredded then u whind up comfussing urself or whind up going back and forth on what to do and use.... "Keep it simple" and using only a CPL compounds a cycle u can find out how ur body reacts and what compounds ur body likes and reacts best to cause everyone's is different some people like deca some eq.... Great advise brother
I'm fairly new to running cycles I have only ran 2 10 week cycles of test e @ 500 mg/ week. So I'm really wanting to run a stack. I'm really going for the old school look like Bradley martyn, calum von mogur, Arnold ect. Round shoulders v taper you know the look! Anyway was curious as to what I should run. Was thinking deca test s and tren? Or should I stick to just two compounds for my first stack? Open to any suggestions.
Only introduce 1 new compound each cycle. It will allow you to know how your body responds to a compound because we all are different. There is no need for tren or deca yet bro. A good test with an oral is ideal. Either way, a test & eq cycle would be ran before deca or tren. It’s a great compound. Again though, test and an oral is your best bet!
Great info.
good info bro
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I am looking to lean out a bit but continue to gain strength. I play sports and weight train. I have some
Experience with anabolic but never really got organized with a cycle. I'm thinking test and deca. Any pointers?
First several cycles should be test only. Stay away from deca for a while.
300-500mg a week of test-c or e, AI, and proper PCT. usually 10-12 weeks. Your diet needs to be dialed in to maximize your cycle.
Do some more research and post up what you've found. Good luck.
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No. You're barely up and running at 7 weeks with a longer ester test. 12 weeks is pretty standard. Post up your proposed cycle in the cycle log, along with your diet and you'll get some good advice.
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Your coach is apparently an idiot. Do a little research for yourself.
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I currently have Masteton E 200mg, Eq 300mg, Deca 300mg, Test Phenyl prop 150mg and Tren A 200mg along with 100 50mg Vars. How would you recommend using this in a 10-12 week cycle?
I'm new here. Please let me know if this belongs elsewhere. But,
I have 2 Test E cycles of 12 weeks completed.
I would like to go for a short heavy cycle. I was thinking about 6 weeks of prop with another compound. My diet is good. I have been training for a long time. My current stats are 6'2" 205 lb at 13%.
I would love to go for a massive bulk. I dial my diet it perfectly because I have a wonderful woman to meal prep. Maybe not this cycle or the next, but I want to eventually be 230 @ 10%. Anyways. My question was I've read a lot about deca and don't think its for me. I've been reading a lot on dbol and was thinking about a 1-4 (5) week dbol and a 1-6 week prop cycle. I've been reading a lot more on the value of mid length cycles and think I want to use these. My main question is; could you help my plan this?
I've read lots of guys saying your test pins can be low on dbol around 250-400mg week. And I've read some guys say pin as much as you want....
Another question is pct. I've read people says its minor if at all when you cycles are 6 weeks or less. But this is my health and my gains and I want to do all I can to protect both.
Thanks in advance bro! Feel free to PM me
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Excellent read for someone kicking around different ideas for next cycle this maybe a stupid question but I have never heard it before what is a wet bulk/dry bulk
A wet bulk is the process of (typically) using a longer ester compound that aromatizes into estrogen easily: hence the tendency for the body to retain water and gain fat. Examples would include dbol, deca, eq, and test e.
A dry bulk is the process of (typically) using a shorter ester compound that does not necessarily aromatize into estrogen easily: hence the tendency of the body to NOT retain water or fat. Examples would include anadrol, mast, primo, npp, test prop, and tren ace.
Of course, those two paragraphs address the difference between wet and dry whereas your training and diet will address the difference between cutting and bulking more so than the cycle alone. Keep that in mind.
If there is additional information to add to my post from a veteran member, you may want to hold out for that information as well. This is as best as I understand it and I am relatively new.
That was an excellent explanation thank you.
Thank you for affirming. The vets on this site such as yourself really do a justice to newer members such as myself by acknowledging or correcting our limited understanding.
Thank you for this post.
Good read, especially on the high BP and liver toxicity. Looking like a boss outside means shit if you have the organs of a corpse. Too many people don't read that page of the playbook. Over the counter liver protectant plus a weak beta-blocker like propanolol can work wonders.
Lots of info in this post thanks so much
Are any of the cycle supports of amazon worth buying?
running Anavar 75mgED test e 500mg Week and think i may need liver support
This really helped me create the cycle I started last week. It's test prop mast prop and tren ace. I am already loving the results. Thanks for the advice
Nice post. Anyone considering running a cycle for the first time should definitely read this.
Thanks for breaking it down in such an easy graspable way.
Riley BanksThis is very good information
nice and simple the easiest way to learn 
bigKountryThanks for the info.
Big help ty
great post. I am starting to create my 3rd cycle. I was looking at the cycle logs. It is a challenge coming up with a cycle. Any ideas? I am 36, 5'7", 170 lbs.
timcinkcWELL SAID!!!!
Loved it , thank you for taking time to do this for us greatly appreciated
Great post keep them coming Faved!!!!!
Nice post...
Good info
Very informative. +1
Thank you so much for this informative post! Much appreciated.
If you could possibly assist me with my first current cycle that would be excellent.
Thanks
very solid informative info!thanks
Hello,
I have a question regarding the dosage for Sustanon250 and Mastaron both Pharmaceutical grade and Anavar.
Looking for a 12 week program.
How much do I take?
Take what when?
Please help!
thank you
Can u pm me i starting my 3rd cycle and wanna do it right
Is your bodyfat percent important before you cycle AAS?
hoops4life2330No bf% is irrelevant to achieving results during an aas cycle.
Rustyhooker^^^^Troll snacks!
I'm finishing up a cycle for a competition right now (500mg test e, 50mg anavar ED and 4mg of p tren ED) but my next cycle I wanted to do a drier bulk. I retain some water from anadrol and d Bol but overall I get lean gains from it. Now I wanted to run a 16week cycle of 500mg of test e primo 250 and 50 anadrol for 6 weeks then I do a cut for 10 at 250mg test e 250mg primobolan 50mg anavar and 4mg of p tren. I know primo is a long ester so I was thinking of running it during the bulking phase. Has anyone done a similar cycle or had exp with primo and anadrol at the same time? Any thoughts?
Great educational information! Thanks
Wow this is one of the best forums I've read. Thanks for posting and sharing. I'm sure you've helped out more than what's commented on here by posting this. Keep the good info coming brother.