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Sustanon injection frequency
Lately, I've been seeing several members (particularly some newer members), who, in their enthusiasm for the board have been going around shouting at people that it is a absolute necessity to inject sustanon EOD. Their reasoning, while seemingly logical, but largely parroted, is that sust must be injected more frequently to "take advantage" of the short ester it contains, namely, prop.
Hopefully this thread will serve as a corrective to that mistaken notion.
First, let's remember that sust was originally designed (yes, designed, ie, created for a specific purpose) for HRT/TRT patients, where the propionate ester in sust would provides a quick burst, while the long and medium esters release throughout the week.
Next, a quick glance at the chemical composition of sust:
30 mg prop, 60 mg isocaproate, 60 mg phenylpropionate, and 100 mg decanoate. The total of which is 250mg.
Now, as we already know, release rate of the ester is determined by its weight (ie, the number of carbons in the ester). In the case of sust this is:
prop: 3, iso: 6, phenyl:9, and deca : 10.
So, the decanote ester is a pretty heavy ester and it makes up 100mg of sust with phenyl and iso close behind, which tells us, if it's not already clear, that injecting twice a week is quite satisfactory for sust.
If someone still isn't convinced, and wants to further press the issue by arguing again that the prop ester won't be "fully utilized" or it will be "wasted", I would refer them again to the structure of sust. Since the prop and phenyprop ester release in sust not separately, but concomitantly, their release for the first four days is strikingly similar to a sinlge ester test (again, making twice a week injection ideal for BB purposes!). And again, this is precisely why sust was originally designed the way it is.
The conclusion is that the argument for shooting sust EOD or ED because of the prop ester is actually just incorrect. Sust was designed to be injected once a week, twice a week is quite fitting for a BB, but EOD is simply a preference.
Be safe and happy growing:
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Rustyhooker2013.....
Who cares? I'll go bump a post from fucking 2006 if I can. If there's information there that can be used or changed or given, then I'll bump it. Plain and simple :-)
RustyhookerAnd your reply is bullcrap. So i negged you as well. Youve posted an OPINION and not a fact so dont pop up all billy baddass.
Plain brown paper bag...
Yeah, I saw the name of this and was like wtf another Sust injection frequency thread?!? Then I saw the date lol
Alphamale500@Kayles420 bumped it up, so I made a comment. Lol!
And yout point? 2 plus 2 still equals 4 weather it was today or 13 years ago...
Alphamale500I made a statement of why I commented on this post. What's your point??
Alphamale500"First, let's remember that sust was originally designed (yes, designed, ie, created for a specific purpose) for HRT/TRT patients, where the propionate ester in sust would provides a quick burst, while the long and medium esters release throughout the week."
Well Heroin kits, including the Heroin, syringe and spare needle, were once sold in the Sears & Roebuck catalog as a treatment for a multitude of health ailments and illnesses. Should we still be using injectable heroin when we get a cold or upset stomach?
And let's also remember that Bayer Aspirin was originally designed (yes, designed, ie, created for a specific purpose) with heroin as a main ingredient.
In the words of Notorious B.I.G.: "Things Done Changed!"
Every other day is a perfect way to use Sustanon. Definitely not every day! Like some of The information that some higher Karma members around here are spreading around here. It is just absolute garbage. But every other day is definitely your friend. I read everything that you wrote above. The thing is, regardless of the other Esters in there, the prop Ester if not injected on a correctly time to basis, will have your test ranges going up and down, up and down Etc it might not be that much but you want consistent blood overlapping. And in order to do that with the prop that is associated with Sustanon, you need at least every other day pinning. Otherwise are Blood levels will fluctuate no matter how much you tell us about the other compounds involved. But definitely not daily pins. That is just absolutely ridiculous. And wasteful of both time and money for the pins
Plz keep negging me lmao because i was told it was... pretty easy to find out
Alphamale500You know what's also wasteful of time?
Your comment!
Every other day
3 days a week injections is best.
RustyhookerNo its not...
With how many UGL sust's there are now it's hard to even give a uniform answer unless OP breaks out the ester profile. I've seen a UGL "Sust" that was 100 mg cyp, 100mg Enth and 50 Prop. There are just so many random ass labs thinking that as long as they include more than one ester they can call it Sust.
Regardless, you still have to play to the fastest ester when deciding on injection frequency. At least in my opinion.
RustyhookerYes those really should be named test blend. Even at that the 50mg prop is gone in 48hrs so youre back to ed/eod pins or find enth/cyp and squash the prop idea.
Exactly. At that point it's pointless.
Alphamale500Yeah, there are countless "Sust" formulas out there nowadays. Sust has really come to mean just a combination of testosterone esters. But I'm a bit surprised how even some of the major UGL's have formulas they call Sustanon, but are just their own testosterone formulas. Imo, if they wanna call it Sust then that's fine, but if they call it Sustanon it should be the original formula.
As for the Sust formula you're speaking of with the 100mg of cyp, 200mg of enanthate and 50mg of prop, I find that to be a very nice blend and I've had some great results with it.
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Oh yeah, we are definitely talking about the same stuff. Yeah, unless it is the same as the original Sustanon ester profile they need to just call it "Testosterone blend" or something... Same as the "Nandro Blends" "Tri Trens" et. No telling how many younger guys think that "Sust" is slang for blended test esters and have no idea that it is a name brand drug and at one time widely prescribed for TRT.
I hate Sustanon...
I Love it.. Ive gotten amazing gains from sustanon alone.. Its basically a pre designed stack, so you dont have to inject different compounds, they did it for you. But everone is different, and everones body reacts differently, so what works for one may not work for another. But personally sust is one of my favorites...
RustyhookerAge: 31....Height: 5'8"...Weight: 150....BF:
You got gains?
Just starting another sust cycle, I'll post the before and after pics in 4 months to show how good sustanon. Works for me!!
Years ago I did brother
PcushionIn order to maintain stable blood levels you have to cater to the fastest water which is prop in this case. So Eod minimal.
Thanks, that makes perfect sense to me and I've been contemplating whether I should do it three times a week or just two times a week which I'm done Cycles in the past and I did it twice a week and it works just fine but with all the comments started making me think that maybe I should do it three times a week but after reading your input I'm going to stick with the twice a week injection like I always have when running sust
RustyhookerIts pinned ed or eod. Or go fint cyp/enth and save the hassles. Sust has long been declared a failure on biweekly or weekly shots.
Ok thanks for the advice, I'll go with. Sun/Tue/ Thurs this go round. I have had good gains with bi weekly but with the short ester, prop/phenyl. It would make sence that eod injections would create more stable test.
AnonImo.....it can be used many ways.....1 x week ....2x week......it is hard to keep a stable level on sus because of the concoctions. ...ppl use it eod to utilise short esters more because of this.....i have used it every single way you can and seem to do okay 2 x week
Short esters make up half the dose and then when they are depleted you are left with the slow esters that sometimes take weeks to kick this is why ppl opt for eod schedule
Personally I preferred M W F 3 times a week injections.
Check this post out. I did a plasma chart on Sust 250 and you can see what it looks like on every 2 day intervals.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/maximizing-cycles
When I 1st started about 17yrs ago.... I would pin sust at 750mg/wk (sometimes 1000mg/wk) in one single inject (well, 2 pins but 1x/wk)... and I had fantastic results for my first handful of cycles.
I'm sure that 2x per wk is much more suitable for consistant blood levels, but in reality... it's not going to screw up your entire cycle if you only whack once per week.
I'm sure many many other "old" or old school guys like me will attest to the same thing. Although now a days I do pin at least 2x per week no matter what compound I am using.
Alphamale500Right or wrong, the first test cycle I ran was just 250mg of Sustanon once per week for 10wks and I had awesome results. Now I can't remember for sure, but I might have increased the dose to 500mg per week for a few of the middle weeks, and still in one injection.
Of course now I do see how this wasn't the proper way to run it. But we live and learn.
RustyhookerBingo!!!
It's against the rules to post an article from another website bud. If you want you can write a narrative of the article in your own words and then post a link to the original article to source it.
RustyhookerX2.....oops