posted Tue, 11/12/2013 - 16:28
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Still running my PH without test, Should I stop?
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Background on me. Currently 227lbs 6'0 Have gained about 4 lbs in a week or so on Epistane. I started the epistane with the plan of jumping on some Cypionate but plans fell through and I dont have the $$$ to get my test. I am loving the epistane but should I just drop it? I have done 1 cycle of test last november for 12 weeks this would be my 2nd run. Thanks brothers.
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Running Epistane without a Test base is not too much different from the "Anavar only" cycles that seem to be popular with young folk in the gym that grimace at the idea of a syringe. It is not good practice to run any steroid without a Test base, even those that are touted as being "mild." If you just started this, I would stop. I am in full agreement with revenge85 (both comments). I would like to get you back onto a Test cycle again. You can cut with Test! I use one of the top eroids labs that may meet your needs to get some quality Test. You can PM me if you like.
I can tell u I ran that shit by itself and didn't have libido for a while! So if that helps any
lift_heavy20hmmm, my libido is still strong. we might have different reactions.
lift_heavy20goal was cutting i dont feell ancillaries r necessary on this stuff.
you need to be running multiple ancillaries while cycling any kind of hormone, including epistane, yes it is on the milder side compared to superdrol or m1t, but it is still shutting down your natural test production, messing with your endocrine system, your kidneys, liver, cardiovascular health, prostate, even infertility, that's just a few of the many things that are being affected whilst taking it, you really should of used test with it, and you must absolutely run a proper pct and get blood test done to avoid permanent damage, epistane is one of a few compounds that cause uncertainties to doctors even after months of cessation.
lift_heavy20I have tons of clomid and tamoxifen. I dont feel an AI is necessary is what I meant as far as support I am running TUDCA and liv 52 and milk thistle. I think Im going to run into the walk in and get blood work done again. does anybody know of a good source to get some test that is not a $200 minimum order? I agree test is essential I just frikken feel like I NEED to be on something.
im going to help you mate, send me a fr and pm and dude, if you hv 200 bux I will point you to a souce that will be able to hook you up for like half a year on that cash daaaaaammmmnn!!! - gearhead - = + 1 for you brother you been working hard and putting ALOT of good info everyday bro.
epistane has anti estrogenic properties, but not a good idea to be running it without test or ancillaries, what were your goals and the purpose of running your cycle? my suggestion would be yes, drop the epistane and begin pct 48hours after last pill, it has to be nolva and clomid.