Next Cycle input
47 Yo, male, 5-8, 190 body fat 14-15%, last cycle 3 months ago. Just had levels check, all normal. Last Cycle was:
Test-C 500mg week (12 weeks)
Tren-C 200mg week (8weeks)
Masteron 200mg week (8weeks)
Tbol 80 mg Ed (8 weeks)
I felt great through the entire cycle, used Arimidex and pramipexole to control estrogen and prolactin. No negative effects. Last cycle was my first cycle that I added a second injectable to go with test, that was my third. This cycle I am looking at:
Test-C 300mg week (12 weeks)
Tren-C 300mg week (8 weeks)
NPP 300mg week (12 Weeks)
no orals this time, will use arimidex and pramipexole again.
Then instead of of PCT I was going to cruise on test-c 150mg a week, and Primobolan 150 mg a week for 12 weeks.
I am only ramping up the Tren a little at a time. I felt incredible positive on it but the stories of rage scare me a bit. My question is on the dosage of the Test-C and the NPP to compliment the 300 MG of Tren, do those number look effective?
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You’re jumping in the deep end fast homie.
Remember, tren is about 5 times as anabolic and androgenic as testosterone. So your 200 mgs of tren was about as strong as a gram of test. Then you had another half gram of test, a little mast, and over 500 mgs of tbol per week. Let’s call it 2000 mgs. Your body naturally produces maybe 70-100 mgs if you’re lucky. So you’ve been slamming your brain with 20 times the androgens it usually has BEST CASE SCENARIO. Of course you were horny. What goes up must come down buddy. I know guys who run tren too often, or too long. Now they cant get hard for anything. Viagra doesn’t work. They’re depressed. Their girl hates them for it.
IMO it is a contest prep drug only.
Just be careful man, use your head. If you think that’s the best thing for you to blast and cruise on then by all means have at it, but you’d better know the facts before you do.
I hear ya, I am not looking to get reckless, which is why I am asking. My PCT went well, I had no erectile issues at all, energy dropped a little but but was only for like two weeks and was nothing major. I understand there are risk with all steroids and I am not looking for long term issues. So would your recommendation be to not use it all or to stay at 200mg. I do not plan to do Tren more then two cyles a year.
As for the cruise part,as I mentioned in my last reply. I am not looking to blast and cruise for a long time. A year or less, then just getting on TRT only. Though in the mean time I am looking to add some mass and strength.
I would say if you are an experienced steroid user and you’re ok with the risks that come with long term use, then 30 days of tren ace before strength or physique competitions is the most I would use.
If you aren’t getting on stage, you can do very well with just test. Or test and primo. VERY well. Like magazine cover worthy. You just have to be dedicated. Years and years of training within an inch of your heart exploding and dieting HARD. That’s what gets the results.
When it comes to steroids I an not a noob but not advanced either. I started steroids two years ago after I plateaued and my test was low but not low enough to get on TRT. I am not a big guy but I am strong for my size. I have lifted consistently for about 10 years, after taking my late 20's and early 30's off. At 44 before taking any steroids my squat/bench/dead lift numbers were pretty good at 520/325/500 at around 175lbs. After not making headway for months and not being able to get on trt I tried test, and made gains again. First cycle was Sustenon-250 only, second and third was Test-C and Tbol. Then for my fourth I added Tren and Masteron. That was four cycles over about two years. I have always done a good PCT and normalized after. Well normal for me is natural test around 300.
I am committed to the cruise because if I can't get on trt I will stay on a trt does any way. I am hoping that after a year of starlight on I will be able to get on trt. Anyway I think I will back my numbers down and stick with the 200mg that worked for me last Cycle. Thanks for your input.
Of course. Good luck, and remember my warning.
So after your 12 week cruise of test and primo what are you going to do.
Get back on another Cycle. What it would be would depend on this one. I know it would involve test-C between 300mg-500mg a week and TBol (60mg ED) after that it really depends. I really liked the results of Tren. When I was on it I felt like I was in the hay day of my mid 20's. I think my girl liked it more them me. When I told her I was getting back on it she about did cartwheels. Not only did I have the sex drive of a 20 something and the rock hard tool to do the job, but I was just incredible positive and just felt all around incredible. So if this cycle goes well I may stick with 300mg Tren or maybe try 400, I do not see myself going above 400mg ever. The question is then NPP. If I like it I may stick with that or go back to Masteron.
Sounds incredibly reckless.
I'm sure there are people that just stay on forever, well until they die.
Good luck with all this.
It isn't what I would do.
How many cycles hav you done?
I am open to criticism and suggestion, vice why I posted. I have done 4 cycles over a 2 years span.
Which part do you feel is reckless? The cruise? That is not something I am making up on my own. TRT dose of test with a low does of primo, is from what I read, a widely used cruise. I do not plan to stay on forever and this would be the first time I cruise instead of PCT. I do not do anything reckless. I get my blood checked regularly. Beginning of my cycle, half way through and at the end. As for the possibility of it permanently shut down my test, don't care. Reason is, before my first cycle two years ago my test was already low, but not low enough for TRT. My goal is to bulk up for a year, cycle on for 12 weeks off for 12 weeks, and so forth then PCT off. That would change depending on blood work remaining in check. Then hopeful get on trt. Then only trt from there on out.
Just that being on for so long will surely ruin what axis you have left. But if doing so to get on trt is what you are after then at least you have a plan. Pinning for the rest of your life. That's were I'm at. For the rest of it or feel like shit and look like it too.
I would rather not pin the rest of my life, but the alternative is not acceptable for me. At 44 before I ever did any type of steroids my test was already in the low 300's. They said it was low but not low enough for TRT which pissed me off. I was in shape, a health guy. I could see no reason for it to be that low at that age. First I tried HGH for 6 months but after spending a shit load of money and not being sure of what I was getting and if I was getting my moneys worth, I tried test. I felt great, how I felt I should feel. Which is why I want to get on trt. But I figure I can put on some bulk in the man time.
Sounds good on paper.
I just see you working very hard for this year getting all these good gains. Going off long enough for your blood work to not be suspect about a year while you loose most of what you worked for. Then the docs fiddle fucking you around for a year. Just to see you go back to where you are now. Just to have to work even harder trying to be sneaky and not get caught and loose your script. But hey we all make our own mistakes right. and in two and a half years to be disappointed and dismayed at how quick it takes a shit. But good luck. Sounds like you will do it any way. So I bid a farewell and good luck to you sir.