posted Thu, 05/10/2012 - 03:00
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need help with first cycle
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Hello ive been doing research on a first cycle of dbol,i was going to do 30mg a day for 6 weeks followed by 20mg of nolva for 3 weeks.But the more i researched the more i got put off, so i decided i want to put test e in there.So far from what ive learnt i should be doing 500mg test e a week for 10 weeks and front load 30mg aday dbol for the first 4 weeks.My problem ive never pinned so dont know what size pins i need,do i need to mix the test e with anything else or do i just draw it on its own.And about pct could i just take the nolva or do i need something else with it.Any advice welcome.
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Thanks for your age and stats bro, now i can go to work.
OK first off your BF% is on the high side so we need to get that down before we touch on a test ONLY first cycle,d/bol at that BF is a an absolute NO NO it will bring on nothing but edema (water retention) and gyno problems.
We are talking about a low carb diet and cardio for a couple months to lower that figure and then we go 500mg pr wk split with a good test E, how does this sound so far to you bro.
Thanks viking i will do that and il get back to you thanks for the advice.
anyone notice there has been a lot of these lately... really floors me... "ive done a lot of research, but in all this research i never learned anything about pct"
well, at least he talked himself out of oral only... or he ran it already and is afraid to say anything...
Thanks for the reply,ive still got the d,bol and was all set to take them but changed my mind.Didnt fancy 6 weekx with no test in me and the emotions of a girl.So its the test for me,would it be ok taking the test while carrying 50lb of fat.
Welcome onboard bro, ive forgotten more than these pricks will ever f-ing know lol.
Thanks viking.
lmaooooo !! all they seem to know about is dbols, winny, and how NOT to run a cycle..
How old is this person you all are tell advice to? Maybe he isn't replying because he is at high school. Will a 1" needle really work on someone that is 600lbs? Wait for stats to give advice.
BOOOOM +3
NicoTheFrench23g/3ml 1 in is what i use for drawing and pinning..the higher the G the smaller needle so 25g would be a smaller needle but it puts more preasure when u try and push the product into u.
AnonWhat is your stats too that is important. Age weight amd so on
Thanks for the reply,i am 44 yrs old been training the last year doing heavy compounds i am 236 bodyweight i am about 20% bodyfat and im 5 feet 10.
AnonNo prob
AnonOh yeah and syringe. 22 gauge or 23 gauge is fine they need to be no less than 1"long and 1 1/2 " is better the deeper into muscle better for less pip in my opinion but woth test e prob no pip anyways. Sust and prop have pip
AnonTest e twice a week! Asuming its 250 mg per cc bottle. If its your very first cycle then fuck the dbol. You don't need it. Run a anti estro everyday such as nolvadex at no less than 10mg pill a day no more than 20mg. Unless your nipples feel odd then I usualy take 50 mg to fight that. Run test for 12 weeks. Get you at least 30 clomid at 50mg each for pct. Two weeks after last injection begin clomid until done with them. This is my opinion on how to use. I'm no pro or doc but this is what I've been told on here before. And as far as nolv it can be replaced with any other anti estro you'd like
Really need stats to accurately answer this questions, age weight, height, bf. but I'll answer some of the basic questions you put up there...as far as what size pins to use, it's really a personal preference some people like to draw the oils into the syringe with a 25 needle and pin themselevs with a smaller needle 20-22g, I personally thing 22g is best both worlds for pulling and pinning. You do not need to mix test e with anything just pull straight from the vile. A typical PCT looks like this usually Nolva 40/40/20/20 Clomid 100/100/50/50. I gotta say though being as this is your first cycle, I would drop the dbol and see how your body reacts to just the test, one compound at a time. And all I can say from the current cycle I'm on is, gear is nothing but a waste unless ur working in the kitchen!!
I think you meant to say some draw with like a 20g needle and pin with a smaller 25g or so. The higher the number the smaller the pin. I draw with 18-20g and pin 25g or 27g for hcg.
Whats your stats bro?