+ 2 Need advice on new cycle
Ok fellas catdaddy originally laid this out, this is my 4th cycle. First was test e, dbol. Second was test e, dbol with prop kicker and taper, third was test c, deca, anadrol kicker, I'm 32 years old 5'8" 220 lbs been training about 10 years seriously, diet is in check can see abs visibly and vascular in arms and delts. Going into September I want to hit a long clean gains cycle as I felt even though pct was great on all cycles , the orals just kill me as far as back pumps, I get super pumped at the gym but they make me feel shitty, and they fuck with my blood sugar, while just injectables actually really help stabilize blood sugar. So this will hopefully last me into the new year, then I'll take some time off to recover and train natural, hit a good bulker then for next summer really cut on short esters. Here's what catdaddy laid out in another thread.....
Here's an option that will work just fine with a dialed in diet/nutrition and training...it will yield nicely and very simple
Week 1-4 Test P @ 100mg/EOD
Week 1-16 Test E @ 400mg/week split
Week 1-16 EQ @ 600mg/week split
Week 15-18 Test P @ 100mg EOD
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD starting Week 3
PCT Starts 3 days after last Test P injection
Week 18 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD/Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 19 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD/Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 20 Aromasin 6.25mg EOD/Nolva 10 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
Week 21 Aromasin 6.25mg EOD/Nolva 10 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
My question is could I add proviron at 50mg a day? I heard it's great for sex drive and for keeping water down, also could I bump the test to 500/week if all I can get is enanthate at 250/ml? Would the difference of 100mg of test hurt the cycle as its laid out? Thanks fellas
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Yes you can add provi at 50mg ed. It will free up test and he'll keep estro in check. I personally love it. One thing to note - little known fact that bold can conver to a potent AI in some. So if you're going to run bold, plus provi, plus aro you will need to do blood work to be sure you don't crash you're estro. Adding 100mg of test e should not cause any problems that I can see. I would even consider dropping test down to 250mg ew towards the tail end of the cycle (say week 14) to really let the bold shine and show its magic. Adjust the test prop taper dose down accordingly say 50mg and as Rusty says run this 17 to 20.
Anyone have an answer to my questions tho?
RustyhookerWhat's your question? Beginner and intermediate cycle group answers bout everything. Read up. Post your findings. THEN....ask questions. Blindly following douchebag like cdud is blocking you out of the full picture
RustyhookerEq stops at 16....then the prop is week 17-20. Eq has long esters and longer time to clear.
Provi...you can. Need bloods week 5 to know if you need ai or adjust ai. Crashed estro stops gains.
Lean bulker......nope. that's a crap idea that will leave you frustrated. Just bulk! Research catalyst and makwa forums. Good food food
Anything else you'd suggest given cycle history to put on serious quality gains
RustyhookerQuality gains...hit up the food gurus. It's really that important.
Click my avatar...read my mass forum. Are you hitting volume like that?
Tbol?
Was looking into adding that, maybe pulsing it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off throughout cycle, similar to what Viking likes to do with drol
Not really appropriate with TBol. The idea ofvtgev2 week on, 2 off idea is influenced heavily by the toxicity of running a drug like Anadrol. I wouldn't run TBol that way.
Never thought about running it that way. Ran it for 4 weeks at 40mg ed and liked it and then 6 weeks at 60mg ed and loved it.