posted Fri, 04/26/2013 - 14:06
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hey guys, just need some quick advice. my first cycle was exactly 1 year ago and i just came into some money and wanna jump back in. my first cycle was Test E: 600mg/week for 12 weeks, DBol: 50mg/day first 4 weeks, with aromasin at 12.5/day, and PCT was clomid/nolva at 100/100/50/50 and 40/40/20/20. I managed to put on about 20lbs and kept around 13. maintaining at 218 right now, and pretty lean. i'm considering doing the same cycle but bumping test up to 750 and adding 400mg/week of deca. what do you all think and could anyone help me design my 2nd cycle. THANKS A TON GUYS
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ok so i'm now thinking of saving the deca for a later cycle. since this is only my second. my first cycle i ran the dbol pretty high at 50mg per say, cuz i only had 25 mg caps. now i have 10mg tabs and my new cycle will be the 750mg per week of test C, and if i run dbol it will be at 30mg per day split up into 3 doses, i want to lower it because back pumps were awful first time, and it also killed my appetite. or should i run prop as the kicker and taper at 150mg EOD? anyone???
+1 for deciding to drop the deca without someone telling you to. this post sort of fell thru the cracks for me, so i appologize for not coming back to you.
deca is not a good choice for a second cycle. i really don't like the idea of the dbol either, but i'm not a fan of it and you've already busted that cherry. here's a layout that i think would benefit you:
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/beginner-cycle-1-or-2-test-e-with-prop...
if you wanna kick with dbol, do it week 1-4 and be sure to start the AI from the beginning. we gotta work you into the more frequent pinning with multiple sites. you don't wanna jump right into it this soon cuz it could hurt like a bitch with each new muscle for weeks. rotate them with your twice weekly pins in the glutes and quads. there's some links in that layout i posted to help with that.
good luck
ok buddy i really like the look of that layout adding in the dbol as a kicker. do you think i'm correct in dropping the dbol to 30mg? and also do you think 500 mg/week of test is enough considering i was on 600 before? i just dont wanna waste my time ya know? i was also considering lengthening the dbol to 6 weeks. would you advise that?
so sorry, age 29, i'm 218 now, and bodyfat is low enough i can see my abs/ vascularity
stats and goals and we can hook you up
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RustyhookerDirty bulk for second cycle? Or lean bulk for beach cycle?
still just looking to put on more size. just gonna clean my diet up to limit fat.
RustyhookerOther guys on here are better versed with deca but I'd not advise for a second cycle. If its basic bulking the 600 or 750 test with dbol is a good standard. Bonus is that you know how it acts in your body. Prop as taper will help with pct.
Or the 600test with prop kicker and tbol at tail end with prop taper to finish drier
so how would that lay out
RustyhookerThe dbol?
1-4 dbol 50ed/split
1-12 test 600 split mon/thur
13-14 prop 150eod....pct 2 days after last pin
I run my dbol lower to avoid the heavy water gain. Aromasin end 2nd week 6.75. Blood test week 6 will let ya know if estro high/low for AI adjustment. I ran aro into pct and liked it. Just half the nolva..20...20..10..10.
1-4 prop 150eod
1-12 test e 600 split
8-14 tbol 50 Ed split...pct 2 days after last tab
13-14 prop 150 eod....^^^^
Same aro protocols as with dbol.
Doss has many nice layouts/ideas as well. So check everyones thoughts.
ok thanks, anyone have any other ideas concerning deca? i've talked to a lot of people who swear deca is the end all when it comes to mass builder.
19nors for a second cycle are not typically advised, I think rust nailed it, either cycle with proper diet will lead to mucho mass.