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+ 1 Its been a while since my last real cycle

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Its been 18 months already since my last cycle and I'm wondering what to run next. Talking my stash, I'm stocked up for a war, I have plenty of different compounds in considerable numbers. I can't really run them now as we are still trying to concieve, but according to our last results the big day is about to come, so...

My idea was to run following compounds for 16weeks :

200mg/w Test E
300mg/w EQ
15mg Dbol Inject daily (4weeks max) or Tbol oral
4Iu HGH daily

or alternatively run these for 12 weeks

200mg/w Test E
300mg/w Masteron E
15mg Dbol Inject daily (4weeks max) or Tbol oral
4Iu HGH daily

I even thought about combining EQ and MAST in a same cycle, adding Masteron propionate instead of enanthate, only for four last weeks, to finish hard, but I don't want to overcomplicate things and my goal is only to gain some lean mass and to feel good, emotionaly and physically, not to go to any competition.

Talking about mental clarity, I also have nor-19s in stash, yet I decided not to include them to this cycle, even though I have experience with both Deca and Tren, or maybe that's why I decided not to include them. If everything goes as planned, my girl will be pregnant during this cycle, so I simply have to be supportive beast, not an angry , raging jerk like I used to on Tren... :))

I really appreciate any cycle advices from my fellow knowledgable members and friends here, no matter the cycle improvement, addition or complete restructuring.

Thanks for being supportive and have a great day everyone.

*My stats :

39years old prick
105kg heavy
11%Bodyfat
Consuming 4800Kcal Daily perfectly clean - I cook everything.
training about 8 times a week, cardio sessions separated from weightlifting sessions.
currently on a doctor controlled TRT + some anchilaries to improve fertility

FatBoy26's picture

Good luck with conceiving. Health and happiness.

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

Thanks buddy, these are important things!

- K A P S I Z E -'s picture

I personally, would probably run into low / crashed E2 with test that low alongside EQ and/or masteron at higher doses. EQ and masteron act as secondary AIs and have anti estrogen effects. Which can work in your favor in many instances but can be detrimental in others. If you’re estrogen sensitive it may totally work in your favor with higher EQ and/or masteron with lower test. Just have to know your body. Just know EQ does have the capacity to really lower your E2. Too much in most cases for me.

As we’ve discussed in other threads I’m a fan of lower test, higher anabolics. But I tend to use 19-nors as my “work horses” alongside low test. Tren A or NPP. I just get more out of those two than any others. Masteron is more of a comestic addition to a cycle. Helps keep estrogen lower, water retention lower, and keeps a bit of DHT in there to help maintain mood and libido with higher 19-nor. But i wouldn’t lean on masteron as a main player in a cycle. It just doesn’t do much for muscle building in itself. EQ is a better “builder” than masteron imo. But I don’t use it much anymore like i used to years ago. It just affects my anxiety too much and my blood turns to sludge. Just can’t beat nandrolone and / or Trenbolone for what they do. They do it best.

If you wish to stay away from 19-nor and you’re estrogen sensitive I’d probably go for a lower test, higher EQ (utilizing EQ as your main player) with as much HGH as you can afford to run everyday. Then, I’d save the dbol to implement later on in the cycle once the EQ has built up so its anti estrogenic properties can help stave away sides from the dbol. It’ll all be about estrogen management with this^^ type of approach. And a balancing act between the test, EQ and dbol. I’ll just go in record and say a low test, higher tren cycle with 2 week on/2 week off Anadrol bursts throughout would be yield way more. And you’d look like a million bucks and wouldn’t have any issues dealing with estrogen.

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Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

I also think that this EQ and / or MAST would suit me well, yet I have a lot of respect for Makwa, so if he say, don't do that dumbass, I surely will not Biggrin

regarding HGH, I can run as much as my body can tolerate, but I noticed joint pain, especially knees and elbows, when running 3,5Iu morning & night, so now I only inject HGH before sleep and this pain went away, which leads me to an assumption that HGH was the case.

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

That's another very informative post of yours for me and I really appreciate that brother. Maybe your point of view is right, or at least definitely thing to consider. I ran two Tren cycles earlier in life (Acetate and Enanthate) and both had excelent results when talking about feeling in the gym and the raw aesthetics output. I have a lot of respect for these harsh compounds though, because I remember well how much it can fuck my head.

In other words, I know my body is capable of turning very little ammount of basicaly any anabolics into great results, so it doesn't matter much in terms of results, what cycle I run, but what really matters to me is to feel good whole time during the cycle and to remain sane.

So maybe litte bit of Tren + Test with only cabergoline on hand is the way to go....

I hope for few more people jumping into a discussion, throwing their opinions in here, I still have enough time for the final decision.

Thank you very much brother!

- K A P S I Z E -'s picture

Definitely go for something that you’ll feel good on. Get good training in. And get the most out of the cycle. If you’re enjoying yourself during a cycle, you’ll reap all the rewards it has to offer.
At least wanted to provide potential things to look out for and that could impact you with consideration to the eq / masteron next to low test and their effects’ on estrogen. Because out of all the gear usage I’ve done over the years.. low / crashed estrogen was by far the worst feeling and experience I’ve had to date. A gram of tren / week for me is a walk in the park next to having crashed E2. Lol But also remember, I’m one of those people who gets on with tren very well. She my gurl! ;) haha Have to weigh the risk and reward of each approach and do what’s best for Your body and Your mind. That’s key. Best of luck brother. Looking forward to seeing how you get on.

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Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

Haha, thanks you lucky bastard! Will do!' :))

press1's picture

With the Dbol inject mate, run it at 30mg per day as at 15mg you won't see anything especially at your bodyweight. Its a slow builder rather than an instant hit in the face like the tablets are.

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

Well noted mate, thank you! I was cautious because oral Dbol always "hit me in the face" like a brick, made me a puffy wattermellon with zero definition and immediately caused upset stomach. My intention was to slowly increase up to lets say 30mg if everything works fine from the beggining. My thinking was this can easily be adjusted thanks to its short half-life.

Makwa's picture

You have estro issues and want to use dbol, that is the worst steroid you could choose to use with those issues, especially if you choose not to use an ai.

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

I never said I'm not going to use AI on cycle. I just prefer not to take it unless necessary because that's what I read milion times al over the internet. + This thing with sensitive nipples might sound (and be ) completely stupid, but I confess that I believed it until now....

Hovewer, that's exactly the reason why I posted, knowing there's a lot of good folks around here, so some of them might bring some good advice :))

Makwa's picture

Why not just a nice test cycle of 500mg with some HGH. Haven't cycled in a year and a half. Niether of those stacks is going to be better than what I just mentioned. Adjust your diet for bulk or cut.

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

can not handle this much Test. My sweet spot is just under 250mg / week, anything above 300 brings sides, whilist 200I can handle without need of an AI. I wanted to compensate the sides brought by EQ / Dbol by Masteron, which is a compound that makes me feel good. + I'm always on test, so I'd like to have that feeling of a real cycle, not just increasing the dosage. Do you think its dumb or it makes some sense?

Makwa's picture

What kind of sides are you experiencing?

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

Bad acne popups on my back and hands, sweats, mood swings, and itchy skin that I can't stop scratch. I also feel like my brain is in fog, can not concentrate and have difficulties finding the right words sometimes when high on test.

Makwa's picture

Have you had bloodwork to show estro is in range?

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

I usually have bloodwork done every few weeks while on cycle. Usually estro is higher than the normal range, but I believed its better not to take AI unless I have sensitive nipples - that's when I throw .25 Anastrozole in.

Makwa's picture

All those symptoms are high estro. You don't just use it when you have itchy nips. If that is happening then the estro has been high for a long time. If you are going to take an AI sporadically then you want a suicide inhibitor like aromasin. You will get an estro rebound with arimidex and just be on an estro rollercoaster perpetuating all the sides you mentioned. Out of all the compounds we take, an AI should be the least of your worries.

Gym and Bikes_bro's picture

Well noted, I admire your knowledge, you're real authority around here mate! I have aromasin as well - is that what you recommend then, or would you rather implement anastrozole preventively, after first two-three weeks of usage...?

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*My stats :

39years old prick
105kg heavy
11%Bodyfat
Consuming 4800Kcal Daily perfectly clean - I cook everything.
training about 8 times a week, cardio sessions separated from weightlifting sessions.
currently on a doctor controlled TRT + some anchilaries to improve fertility