posted Sun, 02/21/2016 - 06:51
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First time Tren user low dose advice ,
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Hey fellas ive ran other compounds in the past ,never tren ,you hear stories about tren sides all the time ,not to sure what to believe ,i have read up and reasearched tren and i know the sides are real,so for my next cycle i have gathered Test prop, masteron prop,and tren ace,anastrozole,caber ,pct i have clomid ,nolvadex ,and probably gonna order hcg just to keep on hand ,or if someone suggest using it with tren ,
My question is how should the tren be run,i want to do a low dose to get my feet wet ,i hear some say run the tren higher than the test ,my goal is to shed some bodyfat ,while minimizing the tren sides,any thoughts or ideas woill be greatly appreciated ,thanks in advance
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If you want the right advice , write please your goal , also every body react different to the gear , for example deca kills me but tren no .
What is your goal ?
Also you are running standard cut cycle , so nothing new and all depends on your diet , goal and how do you look now .
You're going to have to play with tren to get a dosage your body likes. For years I did the whole 2/1 tren to test ratio because that's what all the "experts" say it has to be run. My last run with it I ran 750 test e and 400 tren e a week for 16 weeks. not only did I get Better gains, but the sides were almost non existent. If you start with tren ace like you say, you'll be able to play with your dosage to get to that sweet spot
Good deal ,i will find the sweet spot if it all agrees with me ,thanks
Yeah I've read higher test lower tren for bulking, vise versa for cutting... but everyone is different no doubt
Goddamn your avatar. I'm on to much test to look at this
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Yes thats what i want is to cut with it ,so i will have to play with the dosing to hopefully dial it in thanks man
ED pins and 3:1 ratio works for me. Since you want to try lowest dose, might want to try 2:1 first. But since yours is dosed weird you would need what 2/3 a ml plus 1/4ml?
Yea ,i might just go ahead and order a 100mg per ml make it easier ,
RustyhookerTren competes for receptors and since binding affinity is stronger the test loses. Allowed to float around and convert. Low test. Im not at all a fan of tren because its not just the physical sides but mental as well.
Prop 50 , mast 75, tren a 75 all on ed pins is plenty imo. Strong enough to hit hard. Going to 100ed for me wasnt worth the sides. I wouldn't go past 6 weeks as shutdown is a new beast. Pharma pct imo is mandatory. Have enough to pct 6 weeks if needed.
Read mega883t blood group. Get tested week 3 with proper test so numbers aren't skewed. See how or if prolactin has raised.
Personally, prop/mast/var was an easier cycle. Kept life fun and I could go past 6 weeks. Prop 75/mast 50 ed pins. Var the last 6 weeks 50 ed split.
Its all bout diet. If diets screwed, tren will hit those errors in a snap.
i see thanks rusty,im gonna try the tren but if it doesnt work to my advantage i will drop it,i just really want to try it at lowest dose possible where i still get some results, i havent started the cycle yet ,
I started @ a 1:1 ratio 50mg test prop/50mg tren ace eod for first week, then bumped to 50mg test prop/75mg tren ace eod second week. I'm happy with how I feel on 75mgs, no need to up it to 100mg for me this cycle. As Rusty said, don't do test higher bro. I started adex week two @.25mg Monday/thursday, can't give you advice on dosing your ai or caber as everyone is different bro, so it's good you're getting bloods. I need to do the same soon.
Good luck
thanks brother ,will defiantly take this into consideration,
So I'm interested in the whole picture here. What's the goal for example and why Tren? I mean I know you want to drop body fat but are you trying to get to a level for a reason like a competition? Just to be clear I'm not saying don't do it. I'm not personally anti-Tren but it does warrant some extra consideration so I'm interested to understand your thinking. What dose will you run the prop and mast at? Will you be drawing bloods and when? How will you dose your caber and adex? How long will your run the cycle for and how long the Tren for? Do you have enough sites to estate for ED/EOD pinning? What will your PCT look like?
just want to reach a personal goal of being at a low bodyfat ,not competing ,i work in the health wellness ,so the better i can look helps business ,i will be running prop at 100 mg every other day,and masteron will be dosed at 100mg eod ,going for a 12 week cycle ,tren im gonna start at 37mg eod as a starting point,currently i dropped about 14 pounds no gear just diet ,been off for 3 months ,
Ok. I do think you could achieve way you want to achieve with a less complex stack. It's pretty full-on for your needs. For me I personally started Tren and 50mg EOD for my first run and then bumped this to 50mg ED pinning. Will you dose caber from day one or pull bloods to check prolactin levels? Same question for the adex and estro?
Likewise i think he could do it with a less complex stack. Feel a little hypocritical cos I use tren myself but as rusty wrote above prop, mast and var is a great alternative with way less sides and an easier bounce back from pct.
I'm actually going to do this cycle myself the next time I wanna try tren, see if it gets me were I'd expect tren, mast and prop to.
i will more than likely pull bloods week 4 or 5 ,to see where i am at ,never been gyno prone ,adex i used in past around week 4 or 5 at a rate of .5 mg 3 times a week ,that dose keeps me from bloating and feeling tired ,
Pull bloods then as planned. Run the caber and adex only if needed. Don't want crashed prolactin or estro or have either to high.
thanks
Why would you run 37 mg eod? What's your reasoning for that
oh and the reason for the split is just to see how the body reacts ,safety sort of speak if i get sides i cant handle off a small dose then tren isnt for me ,
i would run it at that dose for a week or 2 ,just to get the feel ,then i would bump it up ,
What is your tren dosed at per ml? It's easier to keep it simple .. .30...35.40 ect instead of having to deal with getting .37 imo
Its 75mg per ml,
That's odd lol .. Good luck to ya
thanks brother ,its BD product ,i chose the lower mg ,
RustyhookerYou sure its not parabolan? Just asking
no a few sites offer it in 75mg same BD brand tren ace,
tgunnz1000Tren effects everyone differently. I don't get any sides from it luckily.
nice what doses have you run it at ?and what dose is your test at,
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36, 5"11 223 ,i have run test e back in the days 800mg week with some eq ,always stuck to the basic compounds now a days im sticking to lower doses ,last cycle was 500mg test e ,with some eq at about 600 week or so ,
How long has it been since your last cycle ?
My last cycle ended 1st week of november 2015 roughly 3.5 months ago
Me personally tren doesn't agree with me at all , but if you was going to run it start with tren ace, fast in fast out if sides get to bad. I would start .5 ml Ed and see how your body reacts to it. Test prop will match up nicely with it. Tren can sneak up on you and hit you hard just be careful
Good deal ,i will take it real slow ,and drop it if need ,too thank you for your response ,
stats ?
cycle history please