-1 First cycle
I’m about to start my first cycle, and just wanted to lay it out here. Maybe you good folks might have some suggestions on something I may have missed, or can do differently. I’ll start with a little bit about myself. I’m 44 , 5-9 170lbs. My goal here is to shed a bit of fat from my midsection, and build some lean muscle. I recently made an order from a trusted supplier, and the eagle has landed. I’ve been prepping a bit, I completely cut refined sugars from my diet, only been drinking water, I have a black coffee in the morning (can’t live without it).
DIET PLAN:
Breakfast: 6 scrambled eggs, cheese stick, plain Greek yogurt, and a piece of fruit.
Lunches: brown rice with black beans, peppers and shredded chicken.
6 oz chicken breast, sweet potato, 4oz fresh spinach, cheese stick.
I’ll alternate between these weekly.
Dinners: fish, chicken, or steak with sweet potato and steamed veggies. I’ll throw a spinach salad in there from time to time to kill the monotony.
Cycle:
Weeks 1-8 Test P 100mg/EOD
Weeks 3-8 winstrol 25-50mg/day
Exemestane 25mg/ twice a week during cycle
PCT:
Two weeks exemestane 25mg/day.
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Rustyhookerop never even replied. Just wanted a cosigner. Wasted time and space
Huh?
Rusty must have over read it, mate.
He did, bro. More than once. Take a look at page 2 ;)
First off I think you need a little more size before a cycle.
Secondly bloods like rusty said below. Precycle midcycle and post cycle
Third point is first cycle should be test e or c so you can figure out pinning and getting a good rotation of spots. Spotinjection.com will aid in this
Fourth is should be only test so if you have a reaction you know what it's from. Multiple things in a cycle complicate this. Add another compound after mastering a test only cycle. Also b sure to keep track of the carrier oil. Lots of times this can give you bad reactions. Trust me. I have lots of gear that I can't use from being too dumb in the beginning
Good luck
Wtf? Almost each solid post here has a neg?
Yeah bro, almost every comment I have posted since Sunday night has been negged. It hasn't impacted anyone's karma though. No doubt is the same person
TronYep, I commented about that yesterday.. mods will find out who it is.
Same cunt negged both of you. Fixed.
Edit: just read karmas not being effected. Oh well, you both prolly deserved a + somewhere that I didn’t give you yet lol
It’s someone without enough to karma to neg and take karma.
20mins ago I was on +3 on this post, went down to 2 but karma stayed the same.
Makes no sense why they would do it though
Yeah, I've noticed that already. Some of my posts are negged without loosing karma, too.
RustyhookerIts a noob. Not enough karma. Probably booted several times. Lol
The game of Karma Bitch Slapping with a noob, I always let them go first, then it's my turn, -2.. lmfao, game ends very quickly.
15 minutes and he does it again.
RustyhookerIf we find em...its gonna be troll stats real quick. Lol
AnonGood thing you posted this before starting it. I see the community is helping you and you're being cool. Many times I have researched the eroid forums to find answers and learn new things. Do your research, get all the right stuff for a complete cycle and PCT, and enjoy man!
lol who is negging Boogerdaddy ?
Every reply boom neg-1 .
GREG! who is pussy negn
TronIdk.. but this comment just got negged along with several other comments on this page..
ok I see its someone with low karma , lol it's probably ol Chris Cox
RustyhookerAt 44 get bloods first. Trt might be an option isnt a good answer below. If you need it, you will lose any gains. Plus youre a good chunk light to even think steroids when food and better gym can be safer
It seems like you need to put on a bit more size first. I'd drop the wind and sub something else for it. Winny and test together are havoc on connective tissue and joints.
No disrespect but I've seen you say winny and test are bad together more than once. Are you suggesting to run winny with no test? Not in this particular case but in general.
Alphamale500You made a very good point!! You're absolutely right, it's not like you can run winny without test to go with it.
Tronwho the Hell keeps negging all the ops replies?? For fuck sake he's being respectful and receptive... I fixed a couple..
Lmao... Thats funny shit. They negged me on my post and everyone as well...
It’s pretty hilarious, just gets aggravating sometimes. Every forum community has trolls.
RustyhookerWeird crap on here lately
Great advice in the comments below. Typical first cycle is always Test E or C by itself to gauge how you respond to it and also what sides need to be addressed before adding any additional compounds in future cycles. Obviously you need to research more on PCT because Aromasin alone isn't going to help a bit in restoring your hpta.
Don't know who keeps negging your responses bc you've been respectful in them. Research more and good luck
Thank you for the advice. I believe criticism is a big part of the learning process.
Alphamale500+1
There's a big difference between criticism and someone just being an asshole. Don't worry whoever is negging you doesn't have enough karma to add or subtract from your karma.
Listen to the guys below! Drop the winny and do more research. Your pct sucks, fix it. Good luck, mate.
Tron1st cycle you only want to do Testosterone at a mild to moderate amount. And you do not want to do a short ester where you are going to have to pin EOD or Ed... Your virgin muscles are going to hate you and make you pay for it I assure you..you want to do a long ester of E or C at 500 mg a week.. some say pin 250mg twice a week but I'm a fan of one 500mg shot per week.. especially for a beginner..it allows for you to recover from the shot and those virgin muscles can get use to an inch or inch and a half of steel piercing them..of course rotating sites never using the same spot twice. It's very important you learn how to rotate sites to prevent scar tissue build up... Why winstrol? 25mg -50mg a day? As in undecided if you're going to run it at 25 or 50? Drop the winstrol dude.. not for a first cycle.. you're 170ibs .. let's eat and lift heavy.. you want to see how you respond to high levels of testosterone in your body before adding anything else..reason being you want to know what causes what side effect in your body.. familiarize yourself with compounds before jumping on more than one.. see where you're at after 500mg test E or C a week for 12 weeks..at 170ibs I'm surprised you considered winstrol over Dbol or tbol.. that's besides the point now obviously.. so this cycle you've laid out for us to critique is pretty pointless now don't you think?? You already ordered and "the Eagle has landed" as you stated in your post.. my question is why didn't you lay this cycle out and ask for critiquing and and advice BEFORE you placed the order?? It's too late now.. and now that you have everything I'm honestly probably wasting my time trying to help you because I guarantee you're going to do this cycle anyways because it's already there..save the test p and winstrol for another cycle man.. grab yourself some test E..keep the exemestane..it's a very good ai.. take my advice and thank me later...or don't..
I really appreciate all the replies here. The stuff I already have can just sit in my safe, it isn’t going anywhere. This isn’t really something that should be taken lightly, and I damn sure wouldn’t want to go half ass with it. Looks like I have much more to research before ever really making such a decision. Thank you sir
Alphamale500+1 for being very respectful and accepting good advice.
TronI don't know why someone negged this reply.. you seem to be understanding and are receiving the advice well. +2 for that
Good advice on here.
Read rustys PCT forum too
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/simple-pct-l...
Im not a fan of the diet really
For instance you wanna loose belly fat with
The fat from 6 scrambled eggs and a cheese stick
Better off with a cup of eggwhites and 3 pieces godshalls turkey bacon. Total 6 grams of fat
Exactly the type of input I was looking for. Thank you
TronAnother bullshit neg on this reply... Tell me why this reply deserved a neg...
+2
Some folks are just mean spirited, earlier I was wondering the same about my replies. I don’t let it get to me, and you guys are greatly appreciated.
TronWhoever it is doesn't have enough karma to take any away with a neg.. so no worries. Once mods find out who it is (which is very easy for them to do) will eliminate the problem.
Alphamale500There's a few things here that need to be addressed, but I wanna talk about your PCT plan which really needs rethinking. PCT is about restarting your testosterone production and bringing homeostasis back to your body etc. Exemestane alone isn't gonna be sufficient. You should really be thinking of adding in one or more of Nolvadex, Clomid and HCG/HMG.
Since this is your first cycle, you're going to be better off with a test only cycle. Also, pinning test prop eod is gonna get old real quick, especially for someone who's running their first cycle. Maybe you can start the first week or two with test prop, so you can stop if it doesn't agree with you and it'll be right out of your system. And then you can just use a much more convenient compound for dosing like Test Cypionate or Enanthate. Either one of those you can inject on a twice per week dosage schedule which will be much easier for a first timer, or anyone really.
So, maybe after a test period of 1-2 weeks with test prop eod, you can run a 10wk cycle of just Test Cypionate or Enanthate @250-500mg per week. And with a common PCT protocol to follow up with. But that's just an example, and of course you should do some more research first.
More research is definitely going to be done, thanks
Alphamale500No problem. Yes, a lot more research is definitely needed here. But really consider running a test only cycle for your first run so you can get a good feel for the compound alone first, before you start adding in other compounds. And PCT is very important and that really needs to be thought over. Good luck with everything bro.
Thank you sir
Drop the winstrol, you'll destroy your joints with it. Review your PCT too, what if you don't respond well to the aromasin, do you have a backup plan? Drop the prop for test e as well, you shouldn't be pinning that often if you don't already have at least 6 different sites to use.
If you haven't cycled and especially at your size which is quite small (I'm the same height and off cycle, I'm at 195), you will grow very fast just on Test e. However, if you haven't been lifting and you've been out of shape, I wouldn't just jump into a cycle since it can cause more damage.
AAS is best used when you have a good base and all of your dieting dialed in. If you have that, it will be much easier and actually possible to maintain good growth after your cycle. Without a base, there is a chance that after the cycle you will look worse than when you started, I've seen it happen.
There is a reason why people without bases look bloated and have no peaks or shapes to their muscles when they cycle. Its very obvious and not a good look. Those same people will swear they are big, pose with a bloated physique and then barely push a 225 bench press at 200 lbs.
Good luck dude and resist the temptation for the quick fix. Discipline will get you much further than just an injection will and when you finally cycle, it will be worth the wait.
Solid advice, bro
Looks like I’ll store the gear for now, and just put in some hard work and definitely more research. Thanks for the input guys, and I’ll be seeing y’all around
Bloodwork ???