posted Tue, 10/25/2011 - 07:32
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Hey guys, please advice on my first cycle:
w 1-12 test cyp 400/w
w 1-10 deca 400/w
w 1-14 prov 25mg ED
w 14-15 hcg 2500iu first dose, then 1500iu E5D
w 14-18 clomid 50ed 2 wks, then 25 ed 2 wks
I'm 39, 235lbs, 15%bf, training for 3 years.
I decided on deca because of the joint pain relieve, and test to help with the libido problems, any sugestions? chnges or additions?
Thanks a lot
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agree'd with most of the comments, test is best when running your first cycle. pref test e, longer lasting with fewer injections needed. also by just running test you will know how your body responds to it. if something goes wrong and your running more than 1 aas you won't be able to tell what is causing the bad reaction. just mo
also a question for you, how tall are you?
thanks for the input, I'm 6 feet tall.
besides sex drive, what are you goals for wanting to cycle?
i want to bulk up this winter, but I don't want to bloat to much, that's why I want to use proviron on cycle, then in spring I want to reduced my BF as much as posible
i would switch to Arimidex for the bloat, but thats just me. people will argue it, but always does me right, with no loss of gains.
tread-mAs has been said...test only first and take glucosamine/chondroiten from now on for repair of joints. Trying that "deca for my joints first" booshit...Playa pleeeeazzzze! Lol
Research, then come back with a better 1st cycle. I usually help people out no matter what, but this cycle shows you don't know what your doing...
that's why I'm here bro...and I thougth I had it figure it out..
so,drop the deca, and do
wk 1-10 test e 500
wk 1-10 prov 25mcg ed
wk 3-9 hcg 500
wk 13-17 nolva 40-40-20-20
wk 13-17 clomid 50-50-25-25
hows that?
That is better, but I hope you mean 25mg of proviron. Although you could extend the proviron to wk 1-12 since the test will still be in the system for those last 2 weeks. The pct looks fine and so does the hcg dose. This is a much better cycle.
allrigth then, let's try this...
Just like my friend below, I would advise you to stick to the simplest of cycle for your first, test-e 500mg/week for 10 or 12 weeks. As for PCT, you obviously need to do more research, there are plenty of good threads on other forums about this, it's pretty simple to find your way around. Keep it simple mate! Good luck!
thanks
You need to do some more research bro, thats not what you want. Deca isnt good for a first cycle for one (i almost made the same mistake) and you dont want to run clomid until pct. You may just want to start off with a straight test cycle, read up on first cycles and talk to some of the guys on the board cause they'll be happy to help. Starting my first cycle in the next week or two myself and the information on this site has been a tremendous help.
thanks man, but i didn't understand "you dont want to run clomid until pct", because i'll start clomid until 2 weeks after the las test shot, Am I suppose to wait longer?
you WILL run nolva, that is more needed the the chlomid is. But ya as scoo is saying, just run a basic test e cycle. Now if you dont want to wait the 3-4 weeks for the full affect of enthanate then you could always front load with some test p for the first few weeks, i wouldnt see that as a problem for your first cycle. Just keep dosages at the lower side so you can feel out your body and how it is reacting to everything.
EDIT: Nolva at end not during unless needed.
My bad, 2 weeks after last shot of long esterd test would be correct, you may want to run Nolvadex too though. As for the hcg check this out it may help
http://www.steroidworld.com/forums/post-cycle-therapy/9123-hcg-during-cy...
awesome, thanks
No prob man, new myself but happy to point you in the right direction. For pct info start here
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/pct-info-nebi...