posted Sun, 06/03/2012 - 17:30
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eq cycle length
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so everything ive read says 12 weeks is the minimum for an eq cycle. anything else would just be a waste. but how long is to long? when do you have to pull out for liver safety? i know some people stay on, but for the rest of us. a 16 week prop and eq cycle is sounding really good to me.
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BostonI agree with you. Thats why im not running tren just yet, still gotta run eq first lol. Cant wait though man.
StevebMyself and a few friends have ran EQ for 4 months and have been fine. You don't fell EQ completely until the 8th week so stopping at 12 weeks is too soon. I just do a longer than normal PCT.
P.S. Why does everyone on this site write your instead of you're?
People are foolish, that's why. Poor grammar really irks me.
i dont think that 23 is too young for steroids especially if you have done them before and you have done the research. you gotta know what your doing, research as much as possible. most of the time when people ask for advice on their cycle they take some of it into account but at the end of the day they are gonna do what they wanna do. and i want you to do it as safe as possible.
so far you have only ran test p and var correct? most people give advice saying that you should run a long estered test as your first cycle, well what about the 2nd cycle? does that mean you can run whatever on your second? no, imo if you do it right then there is no reason that you cant run test e and eq for your second cycle.
i'd stick to the 2 compounds, you could frontload them if you'd like but you dont need any test p or bold ace in the beginning. imo you should run the cycle for 16 weeks.since its your second cycle you may not want to run the test 16 weeks but imo you should run it that way along side the EQ. some will say you can run the eq for the last 4 weeks without the test, ime dont do that. also as roid noid says below, since youve never ran a long estered test you should just run that to see how your sides are, but since youve ran test p before(ime prop has worse sides) i think it would be okay to run the test e/c with the EQ, but its up to you.
-make sure that you have all the proper ancillaries on hand before you start the cycle. plan a good pct for this cycle, i always run my pct depending on what cycle i just finished.
now for the cycle-
Test E/c- 500-600mgs per week for 16 weeks.
Equipoise-600mgs per week for 16 weeks.
some will say that your test should be higher than the eq, ime this is not the case with eq. if it was deca/tren etc then sure.
Shouldn't the test run a week over the eq due to the ester attached to tye eq being longer?
Also heard a lot of people running tren higher than test as they compleat for the same receptors and higher test increases tren sides.
BostonIm running it for the first time as well in my next bulker. 750 test e, 700 eq for 16 weeks. Never ran it before. Cant wait.
ive ran sust and eq for 16 weeks at i think sust 750mg per week, eq at 600mgs pw, also tried it again with test e and eq for 20 weeks, test at i think 900mgs pw, EQ at 700mgs per week. i may have ran it once more but i cant remember. i am not to fond of EQ personally, i felt it was very weak and it did much of nothing, all from great sources so it wasnt fake. i got little hunger issues, little vascualrity, shit ton of acne. all in all it just isnt for me. but i know a lot of people who love it.
BostonIf heard tons of reports like this bro. Damn that sucks. But then again some people freakin love it. I guess theres only one way to find out.
if I can get tren out of my head I am on it next cycle as well.
BostonLmao eq is the only reasin im not running tren yet! But next summer oh hell yeah, the tren train baby!
Tren is insanity at your age.
BostonI turn 28 in 8 days. FCVtech is only 1 year older than myself. Is he insane too?
And I'm also talking to poster of this! First cycle at 23.
Tren isnt til you're over a dozen cycles at least! Knowing how your body reacts. From what ive seen this is your first cycle?!
Bostonwhen did i say this is my first cycle??? And thats not true man about having to have 12 cycles. Thats your opinion. I dont see a problem running it with a half dozen cycles under ones belt. Everyone has their opinion though i guess.
BostonNot true. Deca is just as suppressive. Ive run deca and npp bro and post cycle bloods confirmed that i made over a 100% recovery with my first run of deca. I ran hcg all the way thru and clomid and nolva and recovered quick.
agreed boston. deca will shut you down completely after 1 100mg injection. you did the right thing by running the hcg. imo 28 is not too young to do anything, your a fuckin man at that age. but at any age you can do damage so, as long as you have the knowledge and you arent 18 lol
BostonThis is true.
thats far from the truth! thats some bro science that has been passed around for along time
i guess its over 12 years old then and time after time it has happened to people. please show me where that this is not the truth, using deca on its own nothing else. if i was to see proof then i will never say it again, i am all about more knowledge as i feel we never stop learning.
BostonWhats that? Deca being as suppressive as tren?
that deca will shut you down completely after 1 100mg shot!
i guess its over 12 years old then and time after time it has happened to people. please show me where that this is not the truth, using deca on its own nothing else. if i was to see proof then i will never say it again, i am all about more knowledge as i feel we never stop learning
there is many write ups about deca shutting u down 100% after just 100mg dose, its bullshit bud. Is it suppressive hell yes, is it as bad as tren hell yes, but I can assure you that if you pin 100mg deca today and thats it, you wont know the difference. I say this not because I read it somewhere but because my very first cycle I was running deca and test, not smart but we didnt have a forum to read then. anyways had to stop that cycle early at 4 weeks, 8 injections at 400mg a week, barely even knew I had shut myself down, recovered no pct in under a few weeks if you even want to call it a recovery...Next cycle ran that deca for 12 weeks and was shut down so fucking bad that 1 month after pct my test was below the lowest, had to go on TRT.
i also ran test and deca my first cycle, and as you say there were no forums back then just the vets that you knew or your family knew. but i agree it sounds like 1 100mg shot would not do it, but if neither one of us has proof then neither one of us can say we are right or wrong, maybe someone should elect a buddy who has never done steroids or shit and have them take a 100mg shot of deca and then get bloods done lol. but without bloods on your 1st cycle then you will never know how shutdown you were, we cant just go off of feelings, there has to be evidence that it occured, not long ago i swore i had fake pharma test e, ran it for 8 weeks before i had bloods done, bloods came back abnormally high. but i thought it was fake because i "felt" nothing, no acne, no libido boost, not shit.
are you TRT?...Ive also had this discussion with tread and BB and a few others and we all feel the same!
am i TRT?!? no ive only had one name and thats the one ive have now, ive been here about a year and had this name the whole time. different strokes for different folks. we all are entitled to our opinion, and that what it is without bloods and evidence.
No I meant are you on TRT
yes i am, i get test from the doc, but i use that for when i am on a cruise, i started out getting the test gel many years ago. but after 30+ cycles(cant remember the exact number) and about 12 years i decided to go on trt from now on, but i had my test levels checked when i was younger and i have always had low T, so that is what kinda brought me into the world of juice.
BostonNo i wasnt agreeing with that. Just what he said about being a man and whatnot at 28. Ive heard that though and always wondered...i figured it was bullshit.
well first off im gonna tell you that I think 23 is to young and you should wait.But if your gonna run a EQ cycle, Protocol on this site has always been 16 weeks minimum and as far as length I would say the Max would be 22 weeks. However the minimum is suggested because less time on less chance of fucking yourself up. Now if you are really considering a EQ cycle then I suggest running a long estered test such as e/c, and seeings how you have never ran that before you should do it with out the EQ to ensure you dont get any sides from this form of test...
So first of all your to damn young
Second, if your still gonna run the cycle run just a long estered test
And last WHEN you get to running EQ its a minimum of 16 weeks
your saying 23 is to young to be on gear in general or eq?
gear in general
BostonThere are so many young young guys here that are running cycles and its absolutely rediculous. They all have a way of justifying it. I can see it if they truely have the supreme genetics to be a pro and make a living doing so, but thats just not the case for these kids here. Too many guys doing this at a very young age and its sad.
A- your like 3 years older than me
B- while i have no interest in going pro, we're the same height, almost the same bf, but i have like 70 pounds on you. i think its safe to say genetics are on my side.
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BostonA- Im willing to bet you arent 280 @15%. Post some pics to back your shit up. Mine pics are up and i know what im talking about.
B- i turn 28 in 8 days so im 5 years older than you.
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X2 listen to ROID
another thing is i would advise to get your body fat down. i dont think you will see your gains as well being higher bf. 10lbs of solid lean muscle is normal for eq but deff work on diet and hit the ellipitical min. of 3 times a week, HIIT also.. my favorite cardio
okay so you know how u react to test but honestly id probly go with 12 or 14.
test e 500/600 mg weeks 1-14
eq 400mg weeks 1-12
ai on hand
standard nolva clomid.
there is plenty of info on cycles tho bro. deffintly know the compounds you plan on putting in your body. eq isnt very harsh but expect ur hunger to rise once kicked in and the gains are slow but solid.
Love eq! Has to be 12wks to really kick. I end it at 12 because i don't want harder down time. Personally wouldn't go past 16.
what did you notice if EQ kick in?
just 1. prop 75 mg ed. var 100 mg ed.
cycle history?
6 2
280
bf not sure. a little high. maybe like 15
23
15-23 I would bet 32 - 39
umm are skeptical of my age or my bf? those 2 wernt connected......
well 15 more like 32-39 unless you look like the hulk
BostonHes full of shit.
well first can we get some stats and an age?