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Dbol for one week prior to cycle?

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hey all,

quick question. i am waiting on some pins etc and plan on starting my cycle next monday the 23rd. I had planned on using dbol during the first week of injections. Since I am waiting one more week, can I start the dbol by itself and then start injections next week for my 12 week cycle?

Or should I just wait?

Thanks!

BlackDoug's picture

Fr sent

BlackDoug's picture

You should be taking a liver care supplement like liv52 and a joint care because aromasin tends to dry out the joints.....

BlackDoug's picture

Ok first off drop the dbol for your first cycle. The rule of thumb is only introduce 1 compound at a time. Reason for this is so you can see how your body reacts to each one if you start out with more than 1 and problems arise you won't know which is the culprit. Also this gives you sometime to learn how to use you AI by listening to your body on a slow ester. To much and you crash your estrogen. To little and your nipples start itching and you're crying at the cruelty to animals commercial. I checked out you're PCT and it looks fine. As far as using the aromasin up to and during PCT has been much debated. Personally I wouldn't use it for there's too much estrogen suppression. Start looking for high estrogen signs around the 3rd or 4th week. If you start noticing these signs start out low first and work your way up ie: 6.25mgs eod. Give this a week or so to adjust and don't be too quick to add more. I think that 600mgs per week is at the top end for a first cycle but should be OK. Oh and yes after your last injection wait 2 weeks before you start your PCT. You'll get different opinions but the majority will say to follow as stated above. Best thing for you to do is research. Here's a link that may help.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/creating-steroid-...
I think the stickie above How to cycle the safe way... is better but I can't get the link to work.

r6xual's picture

Good info! Thanks!

I was getting excited to do this and since I got the dbol free, I was going to use it. I will save it for next time

BlackDoug's picture

Good man! You're making the right choice and when that test really kicks in you'll make some nice gains!

r6xual's picture

Test-e test-c and test-p

The difference is how quickly they kick in? Is there somewhere that explains what other compounds do? Like winny etc?

BlackDoug's picture

Test p kicks in pretty quick like a couple days you start feeling it but it leaves the system just as fast. Not recommended on those virgin muscles. Pin a muscle that's never been pinned before with test p and you'll be hatin life. Test e and test c are relatively the same. The half life's are much longer for these are slow acting esters. You'll feel these in about 3 to 4 weeks and it will be full force in weeks 5 and 6. Hers a link to check out!
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/list-of-steroi...

MedDx's picture

Just wait....

MedDx's picture

Post your stats. And, post your organized plan. Brothers on here lose karma points for providing information without anyone having posted stats. And, post them in your profile, not in some post that we have to look for. If you want sound advice then you have to play by the rules.

r6xual's picture

Edited my profile. Sorry, just didnt think about it.

BlackDoug's picture

We need stats bro! Age, height, weight, bodyfat, and previous cycle experience. Help us help you. Stats first and planned cycle, AI, and PCT.

r6xual's picture

This was my plan

http://goo.gl/PzTGA3

MedDx's picture

Drop the TE to 500mg. Keep the injections on the same days. Titrate your exemestane seconday to sides of high estrogen and start it around week three, or four. Get some BF calipers and find out what your BMR is. The macros you submitted look great for bulking, just get your calories in order and post back on here, or PM me. Start methandrolone week one and run it to week six the way you have it set up at 25mg in split doses. Your PCT looks okay. You can run exemestane into PCT and the dosage would look like this 6.25/6.25/3.125/3.125.

r6xual's picture

What size syringes do you suggest for 500mg /wk? I was going with 600 simply for the easy of 300mg / ml.

"You can run exemestane into PCT and the dosage would look like this 6.25/6.25/3.125/3.125"

Are you saying take the two week break between cycle and PCT and run Nolva, Clomid AND exemestane with the dosages you suggested?

MedDx's picture

Submit the plan in a post here on eroids.

MedDx's picture

Agreed...

r6xual's picture

32yo, 5'11", 176lbs, bf% I would guess 14%.

First cycle.

MedDx's picture

Yea, save that Dbol for the second cycle....sorry bro, I overlooked that it was your first cycle.

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FR sent.

r6xual's picture

Got it.

j223's picture

haha hell yea that's true man dbol works the way it does if you can't handle it then don't take it!! it's supposed to bloat you up that's what it does.

jpal's picture

how long are you planing to run the dbol for

r6xual's picture

I was planning on running it for 2-3 weeks.

r6xual's picture

Yes I have ai, aromasin.

Test e
Nolva
Clomid

Waiting on my pins to arrive. Aside from that, I have everything else. If I should wait until week one, that's fine.

mikebuie's picture

im with juice, i know your eager and anxious to start but waiting one more week isnt gonna kill ya. it sucks, i know trust me but its better this way if only slightly.

batman advised to start dbol at same time as your AI, like 3 weeks in, which i can see why hed say that but i personally wouldnt do that at all. sure you could, but why wouldnt you just start your AI sooner instead of the other way around? im running test e, deca, and dbol my next cycle and will be startng my AI the first week as dbol aromatizes incredibly quickly. its good to see you open and receptive to advise btw, +1 for your attitude

r6xual's picture

Fair enough. Thanks for the quick advice!