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cycle advice, opinions, critiques

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im trying to plan my next cycle, which will be my 3rd. i have several ideas i just haven't been able to settle on anything. the only thing im sure of is i wanna do a short ester cycle, after that its all up in the air. my goals are to remove my remaining fat and add a few lbs of quality lbm if possible. i would like to eventually get down to around 8% bodyfat and maintain it. below are a few ideas i had. any and all cycle advice and/ or critiques welcomed.
*im currently running hgh @ 2.5iu/ed working my way to 3iu, not sure if i should stop once cycle begins or keep going.

Stats
Age: 28
Height: 5' 8"
Weight: 195
B/F: not sure have 6 pack tho

pic - http://www.eroids.com/pics/1-year-anniversary

cycle history
1st cycle
12 weeks test e @ 500mg/wk

2nd cycle
16 weeks test e @ 600mg/wk anavar @ 60mg/ed

1st idea
1-10 test prop @ 60mg/ed
1-8 npp @ 50mg/ed
4-10 anavar @ 60mg/ed
2-10 adex @ 0.5mg e3d
2-12 caber @ 0.5mg e3d ( running it 2 weeks into pct to prevent prolactin rebound? )
2-9 hcg @ 250iu 2x/wk
11-15 pct - clomid 100/100/50/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20/20

concerns
- would be 1st run with a 19nor i didn't have anyone tell me how to go about prolactin control, i researched and learned it for myself, wanna make sure im correct
- is my proposed pct adequate enough for this cycle? or is the standard 4 weeks enough? i figured an extra week couldn't hurt
- i heard with decca the test/decca ratio should atleast be 2:1 to avoid decca dick. is this the same with npp? im running the minimum recommended npp dose, i think 600mg of test p is alot for me at this point. i've also read a few times were guys ran npp higher than test with great results, not sure id wanna risk that

2nd idea
1-10 test prop @ 60mg/ed
2-10 mast prop @ 60mg/ed
4-10 anavar @ 60mg/ed
2-10 adex @ 0.5mg e3d
2-9 hcg @250iu 2x/wk
11-14 pct - clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20
* saw palmetto/ finastride - start 2 weeks before cycle to help ease prostate

concerns
- hair loss!? i have a full head of hair, i wanna keep it that way
- i spent good money on quality mast. i didn't buy it for a potential ai replacement, i want to get the full effects of it. is my bodyfat low enough now to witness the full potential of mast?
- is running anavar/ mast dht overkill or together do they have a synergy and compliment each other?

part of me is also thinking if im gonna be focusing more on cutting to just run test and maybe throw in a lil var. test is enough to keep from going catabolic, why waste all this money on extra compounds. is npp worth running in a cutter, is mast worth running in the winter?

mTor's picture

I'm currently running Test p/ npp cycle. I pin EOD which I haven't felt any hormonal fluctuations (mood swings) with the short esters like I did with test e. I'm running at 1.5/1 ratio, 150test p/100 npp with adex 1mg and .5mg EOD (that ratio works the best for me as of now) along with proviron 25mg/day.
I have not felt any deca dick lol if a anything I can't keep it down haha
As far as actual cycle goes, I lost a lot of weight due to surgery, illness and traveling this summer so I'm back up to the same weight, 205, when the summer started but so much leaner. I'm easily down 2-3% bf from the start of the summer. The strength is good, the lean muscle is great. I honestly just cleaned up my diet a tad and I leaned out so much more. Gotta find a way to get 500 more lean calories a day in to keep up the muscle gain.
Pct looks fine but I haven't gone through mine yet so I can't say if it'll work for you or even me

mTor's picture

When I was on. I gained a lot of weight quickly and then I started to watch my diet a bit more and I leaned out. So I would say 2-3% from when I was sick/just started and about 5% from when I was my biggest

Older School's picture

Take a close look at Finastride. There are some consequences to using it. The big thing is that it can cause erectile dysfunction. And once you start using Fin, you can't stop. I bought some a while back, but it's just sitting in my closet because I would rather have my virility than my hair. It's a tough choice, and both options could lead to the same result: Not getting any. LOL

Trapsquatch's picture

yea bro with the doses your proposing you could go EOD(120mg)prop (100npp)...I like ED for stable blood levels but since your new to prop etc I would suggest EOD for at least the first 4 weeks then after you for got a feel for it switch to ED....now your npp MAY cause a little deca dick so if I was you I would do 1 of 2 things either raise my test prop or go with some bayer proviron at 25mg or 50mg to counter act that....and by the way dont just throw in caber bro I am running 525mg npp a week and have NO prolactin issue's just keep your estrogen in check and you should be fine....always have caber ON HAND but dont just throw it in just to be "Safe"

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

10wks ED pinning ;/... good luck bro lol

Nothing wrong with either cycle imo...... i just pray you get pipless gear or this run could go belly up real quick.

Pale's picture

I pinned for nine weeks straight ED last cycle. You get good and bad pins I guess. How many sites have you used so far? The basic six really is not adequate for ED pinning.

rolltide3's picture

By then end of my last cycle which was short esters pinning eod sucked couldn't imagine pinning ed for ten weeks.