Just my personal experience, I have had good HGH (great results) and some HGH not so good or even bunk (no results). I recently tried Frag HGH and cjc1295 as a substitute for HGH (from a very reputable source on here). For me, no comparison. I thought the peptides were a complete waste of time and money. I got nothing at all from the peptides. Experiment failed. I will spend my money on HGH and anabolics, peptides of no value to me.

the best article, imo comparing the two:

http://basskilleronline.com/growth-hormone-administration-vs-cjc-1295-gh...

what i feel is most appealing about peps vs gh, other than the obvious price difference, is the fact that peps force the pituitary to release its own naturally produced gh. even when using my favorite combo, cjc-1295 dac, ghrp, and huperzine-a the pulsitity of the pituitary is intact and releases large amounts periodically throughout the day rather than one big 12hr surge. the body is more comfortable with this type of fluctuation than exogenous gh administration and therefore has less undesired side effects.

http://www.afboard.com/library/Pulsatile%20Secretion%20of%20Growth%20Hor...

^link to study proving cjc-1295 preserves the natural pulsation and that "gh bleed" is a myth

on a side note i find it amusing that some many ignorant people on various forums promoting that datbtru cjc with dac gh bleed bullshit when administering pharmaceutical synthtic gh is just that. one big 12hr bleed of gh. of course distrupting the natural secretion of gh with exogenous gh will infact shut down your own natural gh production just like steroids to your HPTA and can cause greater suppression with long term use. aswell as much more side effects, growth of organs, and non-muscle tissue being the most undesirable imo.

Peptides will elevate IGF levels as well as serum levels.Honestly,thats all that matters any ways

Is it?

I think some products packaged as "HGH" might have tested (MS) as "peps". I haven't seen many that test that way though. I have an answer to your question. Too long to post here. I'll make a separate post when all my i's are dotted and t's are crossed. Info from two separate HRT Docs, FDA, Pharmacodynamic Studies, etc. It's more than the "antibody" answer. An unlabeled, untested colorful top should really be used with caution. But, it seems the highest GH Serum and IGF-1 is the winner. But it's not.

Here's the thing tho bro, from my experience and after a lot of research it's not all about hgh igf-1 levels. It's also about the presence of real hgh in the blood. 4ius of phamra grade gh will put most people between 450-550. I can get to those levels and I have with generic hgh or peps or whatever the fuck they are but my results are nowhere near the results of 4-5ius of pharm grade gh. Not by a long shot.

So with that being said if the choice is generic gh or peps then peps are the way to go. But with the same igf-1 levels on peps as you would have on pharm grade gh the results will still be night and day.

And no it's not about finding out if what I have is real. I'm just a very curious nosy bastard and I like to try to know as much as i humanly can about everything. So I want to know exactly what these chinese people are putting in there that peaks exactly 3.5 hours later for serum tests just like hgh does and what can keep igf-1 elevated with only 1-2 shots a day. And then I can know forsure they're really selling us peptides and not just some underdosed gh. Cause as of right now I don't know any peptides that will peak at 3.5 hours and produce serum results of 20-30. Someone on anothe forum did this and he found he had to pull bloods 1 hour after the injection to get a 20+ Gh serum. And were getting this 3.5 hours later just like gh.

So with all that being said and after talking to a biochemist who's also one of the most knowledgable coaches in the world who's familiar with the generics going around I asked him is this shit real gh and he said yes it is, it's just produced with a shitty form of ecoli bacteria as opposed to a high quality ecoli or even better mammalian cells from nice which makes it about 5 times weaker then the pharma grade stuff produced from either the mouse cells or the better quality bacteria. Which is pretty spot when you think of dosess of geneics compared to pharm grade. He also told me it's necessary to inject a minimum of 1mg at a time, so each vial is roughly 3.33mgs so each vial can only give you about 3 shots. So idk man. I wanna know the truth. Even mass spec is worhless for hgh all it will do is tell you the molecular weight it won't tell you the sequence of amino acids or if it's even the least bit bioavailabe. Testing gh is diffiuclt.

Are they a combo of peps or just one? We don't know wtf this stuff is. What we need is someone who isn't fucking broke like me to shoot some ghrp and then go pull serum 3.5 hours later and see if levels are high like they would be when we test these generics that consistently test in the 20s-30s. Then go do it again with cjc, then sermonelin and every other fucking peptide that's known to increase gh. And then pull igf-1 a month later and see if the levels are high. Multiple people said they were gonna do bloods on peps and nobody ever fucking dose it. But I think that's already been figured out after someone had 400 igf-1 levels on cjc and ghrp. So we know quality peps can raise igf-1 levels as high if not higher then generic gh, we just don't know which ones last long enough in the system to be peaking exactly 3.5 hours later like gh does. Once we figure that ou will know exactly what these chinese bastards are doing to trick us. Or another thing we could do is shoot generics only once ed and get bloodwork done in a few weeks. If igf-1 is really high then we know it's not peptides like you said they need to be injected multiple times ed due to th short half life. But even it we figure out this mystery people will still buy the cheapest generic gh around for 150 bucks a kit lol.