posted Sat, 07/12/2025 - 05:33
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Morning! Hoping for a little constructive criticism! This will be my 4th cycle and 3rd contest.
Stats- 5''10 182 pounds 9.5% body fat
Planning on running the following for 16 week cycle
Test 600 weekly
Mast 500 weekly
Primo 400 weekly
Winstrol 25mg (weeks 6-12) Last 4 weeks 50mg daily
Blood markers are all perfect. Ran this cycle for prevous comps minus the Primo. Was told adding the primo with mast will dry me out even more. Thoughts???
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Short esters til 2 weeks out. Mast primo sounds like prostate will be aggro. Up the winny and split am pm. No oilly pins/esters in system to linger and hold water.
Appreciate the clean stats and the clarity, let’s break this down like it’s peak week.
Your Plan:
Test – 600mg/week
Mast – 500mg/week
Primo – 400mg/week ?
Winstrol – 25mg (Wk 6–12), 50mg final 4 weeks
You’re basically running a dry-as-hell, Dorian-Yates-meets-Men’s-Physique prep stack. Respect.
Now the elephant in the room: Mast + Primo.
Let’s clear the bro-science fog for everyone watching:
“Will Mast + Primo dry me out more?”
No. That’s not how drying out works. Neither compound is a diuretic.
Mast and Primo don’t “dry” you , they don’t aromatize, so there’s no extra estrogen holding water. If you’re already lean (which you are), they’ll enhance that hardness. Think: paper-thin skin, tight grainy look.
Running both together-- Totally fine. They both bind well to SHBG, increase free test, and give that cosmetic polish.
BUT… here’s the real talk:
They’re both DHT derivatives, which means you’re doubling up on similar pathways. No synergy here, just redundancy.
If money ain’t a factor and your hairline is already holding on for dear life, cool. Run it. You’ll look like an anatomy chart in motion.
But if you want more bang for your buck, here’s the refined version:
Steroid King-Approved Prep Stack (16 Weeks):
Test E or C – 500–600mg/week (base)
Mast E – 400–500mg/week (polish, hardness, mood boost)
Primo E – DROP or swap for EQ 400–600mg/week if you want mild fullness and appetite support
Winstrol – 25mg/day Week 6–12, then 50mg/day last 4 weeks (oral or injectable, your joints will tell you)
If you really wanna level up dry conditioning:
Final 4 Weeks Add-Ons:
Proviron 50mg/day – More SHBG binding, more free test, more grain.
Halotestin (if you’re a psycho and want to suffer beautifully) – 10–20mg/day final 2 weeks only. Liver and rage warning.
Bloods & Reality Check:
Saying “blood markers are perfect” while on cycle is like saying your liver's fine while drinking vodka through a straw. It’s good until it’s not. So props for monitoring, but don’t let that lull you into thinking you’re untouchable.
Stay on liver support (TUDCA, NAC), hydrate like it’s your job, and don’t be scared to pull lipids mid-cycle. Winstrol and Primo will hate your HDL.
Final Thought:
Your cycle is clean. Primo won’t hurt, but it might not help enough to justify the cost or redundancy. Mast alone is nasty at your level of leanness.
If your prep game is tight (diet, cardio, posing, sodium), you’ll look peeled regardless. The drugs are just the frosting, don’t forget the cake.
Stay dry, stay deadly, and bring home the Crown!!!!!
Who is the steroid king??
Me and always will be
If you know you know!! 
Wait a minute?? IYKYK. D??
Another quick questions!
Im currently injecting
test cyp mon & tues
mast p EOD
Have read conflicting theories on injecting daily or every other day no matter the ester. Any thoughts on this. I dont mind adding the test with the mast to be EOD but would prefer not to do ED and feel like a pin cushion
injection frequency isn’t about bro-science, it’s about blood stability. Since i know your the type to dig in deep threw in some articles and science down below with links.
You’re running Test Cyp (long ester) and Mast Prop (short ester). Mixing those esters in the same syringe and pinning EOD, totally fine. In fact, that’s what most experienced guys do when stacking short with long esters. No need to go ED unless you're trying to feel like a pin cushion.
Cypionate has a half-life around 8-10 days so pinning it EOD with the Mast will actually keep your levels smoother than splitting it Mon/Tues, less hormonal swing = better mood, fewer sides, more consistent performance.
What I’d do:
Combine Test C and Mast P into the same syringe EOD.
Warm it up. Pin slow. Rotate sites.
And no, injecting a long ester more often doesn’t waste it. It just flattens the peaks and valleys. That’s a good thing. pin schedule matters less than consistency and dialed diet. Don’t chase perfect frequency if you can’t nail sleep
good read and video:
The Science of Testosterone Dosing: Why Frequency Matters
https://www.apex-healthwellness.com/blog/the-science-of-testosterone-dos...
and another its about TRT but the science is the science, when it comes to stability just more knowledge for everyone.
Gold Standard TRT:
https://themenshealthclinic.co.uk/gold-standard-trt/
Testosterone Therapy With Subcutaneous Injections: A Safe, Practical, and Reasonable Option:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9006970/
man you might be the king
Damn bro. I appreciate the time and effort you put into that. I will adjust my plan accordingly. Thanks again
Well I currently only have mast prop as the shortage fucked me and I ran out of enthate.
I have been told by a few people to lower test closer to show so I will do that! Appreciate the help
I like the compound choice and the doses of mast and primo. Personally I’d be running the test lower, or atleast lower it as you get closer to the show, like 8 weeks out cut it in half.. If this cycle has worked well for you in the past then I’d stick with it. And primo will enhance if further. There’s an argument to be made to switch to test and mast prop closer to the show, but I wouldn’t If this has worked for you before.
Just saw I put 1-12- its actually 6-12 sorry
16 weeks of winstrol...smh
I personally didn’t see a difference with primo until I ran it at 600mgs+. I know a lot of gents that would say you’d better off dropping the primo and running tren ace those last 2-3 weeks.