posted Tue, 01/15/2013 - 12:37
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Blends, Good, Bad, and Ugly
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I was on a supplier's website today, and was looking at his blends. For an example
"10ml vial of 200mg Testosterone Enanthate, 200mg Trenbolone Enanthate, and 200mg Masteron Enanthate"
So that means for every ml you are injecting 600mg of stuff. All I have to say is that PIP is probably pretty tough. So the question came to my mind, "does anybody use this stuff?" well I know where to get that answer.
Let me know if you've used a supplier's blend, and what you thought of it. If you can give me the actual components of the blend that would help out too.
Thanks!
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AnonSo whats the difference if you load up your own pin with three compounds ?
I tried a Superblend600 from one of the top suppliers and there was minimal pip. Overall the compounds didnt agree with me and I discontinued but it wasnt due to pip.
CleyonThe difference for me is that I'm always stressing whether I loaded up the proper amount of each compound into a pin! I understand what you're saying though. The other thing that i've taken from the comments below is that because of the different molecular weight of the different compounds each 1ml might not contain exactly the right amount. I don't think that's much of a worry, because if that was the case then you'd get more out of the bottom of a vial than the top of any oil, and that would have been discovered long ago.
AnonSo what are you going to do then, buy three bottles of different compounds or one bottle with three ?
Another thing is even though I have a weekly plan on injection schedule and dose, every now and again I'll bump up one or the other, or even add a little prop for the "Saturday night boost "
So if all your bottles were blends you'd loose that flexibility, that is assuming of yourse you too occasionaly vary like I do.
CleyonI ended up ordering on blend bottle of two compounds. I will try it out later in my cycle to see how it goes once I'm sure both compounds are working at their current levels. At one point in this cycle I'm going to be injecting three different compounds, so that's the only time I'd really consider it worthwhile.
I've used blends and will in the future. Although I believe it's tough to maintain stability. Much better to run the compounds individually. Just less practical. But the bigger problem is how the hell do we know that everything that's supposed to be in them are actually present? Unless we send them out for testing we just don't know. I've heard stories of ppl paying mucho Trabajo for primo only to end up getting estro sides which leads me to believe they got test. It's just too hard to gauge and we really don't know. I like the blends (sometimes) for their convenience but its much better to use individual compounds IMO.
CleyonI guess that's why it's so important to use a source you really trust. I'm definitely glad I asked the question, got a lot of solid opinions.
also something I have always noticed especially with tren test mast blends is that the doses are way off...I don't know much about tren but I do know it wins against test when it comes to receptors so that's why you run tren higher and the low test dose is just for sex drive and such....200 and 200 would give you crazy high amounts of estrogen am I right? due to the excess test floating around converting into esrtogen
The only other thing your could do is hold some tren e as well. So say inject half a cc of the blend and increase the tren level with a separate bottle on tren e.
I have never seen a brand get these levels right, at least for tren.
I have recently found a supplier that does a blend with a lower does of test e and higher dose of eq. It's the first blend i've seen that I would consider running.
Just going to change the above. You would really struggle to adjust long esters based in the way I have stated. You would have more of a chance with short esters.
And, I've never seen a brand get the test/tren levels right for ME to dabble with them.
Cheers
This is the main problem, people tend to react very differently to tren / test ratios. As a general rule, lower test tends to reduce sides, but that isn't the case for everyone. With equal test to tren I wouldn't get a lot of sleep, but others dont have the same problem. Equally a friend of mine finds if he runs tren higher than test he gets a lot of anxiety and jealousy issues.
This is the problem with blends, there is no one size fits all approach and it's not practical for a manufacturer to make multiple varients.
CleyonWow, didn't think about that either! Of course an AI could be used to get the estro under control, and any time you're running Tren you should be running Caber or Prami anyway. More than anything to me it just means you're wasting a LOT of testosterone.
The only blend I've ever used is sustanon, which is simply a blend of four diferent estered tests. I'm not even a fan of that really. Blends are made to make things easier and more convenient. But to me, theres nothing about running gear that is convenient. It's all about putting the work in and being dedicated to what you're doing. If that means I have to pull from multiple vials then big deal. I think it's fun anyways. Blends are also way less cost effective than buying multiple vials in the long run and they offer virtually no flexibility to adjust the doses of the compounds if needed.
CleyonYeah, if you're looking for convenience, you've picked the wrong hobby! I will say that if I ever can think of a way to pre-load syringes so that I can trust they are sterile it will be a marque day for me. I hate trying to measure out the correct amounts of different compounds into a syringe at dawn when I can't even keep my eyes straight.
Anonx2
I like being able to control my compounds separately. I don't mind high dose single compounds, then I can cut down on how much oil I'm pinning which helps with multiple compound cycles. Some blends are cool though, like mast/prop/ace 150mg or 300mg per ml, that is straight. But high dose crazy blends I stay away from for the most part. Maybe ill try it one day
zewiIMO--i dont like blends. Just cause it says 10ml vial of 200mg Testosterone Enanthate, 200mg Trenbolone Enanthate, and 200mg Masteron Enanthate"
Does not mean that your getting the correct dose of each in every shot.. It will very.. and I never run tren and test at the same dose.
CleyonThat was my first thought, that the recommendation is to run more Tren than Test. I didn't really think about the likelyhood that you wouldn't get precisely the right mix in each injection.