posted Thu, 04/17/2014 - 15:59
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3rd cycle
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Looking to start my 3rd cycle. Wanting a lean gain bulk
Stats
27
5'11 220
12%bf
Training 5 years
16 weeks
Test cyp(all I have) 600mg week
Eq 600mg week
Adex .5mg ed
Note on hrt at 200mg week test which puts my current test levels at 1092 according to last bloodwork
Thoughts?
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I was under the impression Primo and EQ should be run with as little test as needed... 200-300/week...
U can run Primo and EQ higher than Test for sure - but the "with as little test as needed" really only applies when u are running Tren. Neither Primo nor EQ has that strong a binding affinity to the androgen receptor to prevent free Test from binding as well, Tren however does. So in your case, the test is gonna do its thang as well as the EQ
great advice. I will also add that it is goal oriented, so guys that run cycles where no water and little weight is desired will run like this. runners, bicycle, swimmers, jujitsu, ect.....Also if you where going into some kind of cut and wanted less water test would be dropped lower.
For a regular cycle however gearhead nailed it as both are not very strong compounds.
Cycle history.
First
400mg test 12 weeks
Adex .5mg e3d
Second
500mg test
400mg deca
Adex .5mg eod
12 weeks
I like the adex every day mainly so I do not forget to take it. At .5mg eod at 500mg test my estradiol was still around 50 according to bloodwork.
As far as why I am on hrt. When I was 25 I got a horemone panel done as I felt exhausted all the time, low sex drive etc. Total test came back as 209 fasted in the morning. I tried multiple natural ways to increase it with very little luck. Best follow up level was 245. Therefore my doc suggested a gel which I was against, referred me to an endo and I was able to get on 200mg a week prescribed.
I dont see anything wrong with this cycle, there seems to be a new consensus on the board that Eq should be ran lower then what we used to teach. But I cant speak in terms of personal experience and the lower dose, so ill leave that to others that have experience with a low dose Eq.
Your Adex dose will be better suit at .25 EOD unless you know you have estro issues.
Im not asking cycle history because you have 2 priors and test is always base but for future reference you should list them.
Bro,
I could justify 300 mg Test and 400 mg EQ for a 16 week 3rd cycle run. If your diet is spot on u should get some decent gains from that. Your proposal of 1,200 mg of gear is way too much.
The adex dose is .25 mg e3d that may need to be adjusted to .25mg eod depending on your E2 levels from your on-cycle labs. It's a question of how much u aromatize. Everyone is different.
.5mg eod adex @ 200mg test c a week put me around 30pgml. So at say 600mg I would imagine I need at least 1mg eod
what is the board recommending a starting Eq dose?
What's your cycle history what was your previous two. why u on trt bro