posted Thu, 10/18/2012 - 19:09
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2nd cycle???
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So I wouldnt call my first cycle great, maybe not even good. but due to a poor pct. I think the nolva I got wasn't up to par as well as an AI, and the clomid was making me sick as a dog
now my question is this. I did that cycle finishing pct over 3 months ago. I don't feel how I did before to the cy le still. I just don't feel like myself
I was thinking of tying a second cycle to try to kind of balance whatever was wrong the first time out. Good idea or bad? was thinking just prop as last time I did 10 weeks test e
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a buddy made the same mistake back in his days, he said that it took him around 6 month till he felt half normal and year til full recovery. ur paying the price but all i could tell u is that it will get better with time and just knowing that will hopefully make u feel better. get blood work, find out whats wrong. my guess is that ur still shut down, restart pct. good luck, dont start another cycle
Just take some nolva for a while you are suggesting?
IT IS NOT THE NOLVA THAT GETS YOUR BALLS WORKING AGAIN...IT'S THE CLOMID.
Follow the protocol listed below with the ai and hcg and then the standard pct with nolva and clomid. Or see if there is another medication that does exactly what clomid does with different sides, I doubt there is one though. You may have to go through a few of shit to feel great again. Man up and deal with it.
zewiWhat do you mean you don't feel like yourself??
Everything bothers me, I worry about everything, constantly stressed out, can't relax, depressed as fuck, bi polar type of mood swings.
zewiYou have low test..
Go get blood work.
If you cant get blood wrok there really is only one thing can do go get an AI (Aromision) Go get HCG and go get NOVA and CLOMID!!!
when you have that in hand let me no!!
I can't handle the clomid! Made me sick. I came on this board n found out its common for some n they just don't use it. I have some nolva left but will need the ai as I think I only have an otc ai, erase
zewiYou no how clomid works correct?? You need to man up and take that shit. take it at night take small doeses through out the day.. do something you need that shit brother.. or you are just going to wait until your body can adjust.. and you might be feeling this way for awhile!!!
Yes but one of the side effects is permanent blindness. When I was on it sometimes when driving I literally had to pull off cus I count see straight. Made me nausea 24.7 n I was constantly seeing spots. people on here said to stop taking immediately
zewiwell good luck with NOVA HCG and an AI!!
HCG for 21 days 500iu a week with an AI...
2 days after NOVA and AI for 3 weeks.
IMO never take AAS again---you just wont recovery for a while..
ALSO GO SEE A DOCTOR.. CAUSE THIS MIGHT NOT WORK.. and you will need something better.. More than Likely TRT for the rest of your life.
Damn zewi you used to be much kinder. what cycle are you running? N I doubt ill need trt for the rest of my life from a test cycle that was 10 weeks long but whatever
Im not kind.....GO SEE YOU FKING DOCTOR! MAN THE FK UP! YOU DID THIS AND DAYS LATER WHINING!
ITS LOW TEST LIKE EVERYONE SAID!! SMH....WTF IS THIS?
Not whining. trying to fix it. People made it seem after pct they good n everything
They are good after. Your pct was bunj...very clearly. Bloods will show that. Dont cycle til bloods and the GS jumpstart is done or you may get permanent shutdown
ThInk you. N ya I agree I got some fake pct smfh
Ive had same thing back in January. Holy blues parade!! Sucked .....
Not whining. trying to fix it. People made it seem after pct they good n everything
you should be good after pct, that is why you need to get your blood work done to see whats up...search this site and you will find online labs that will do this for you for under 75$.
zewi"Everything bothers me, I worry about everything, constantly stressed out, can't relax, depressed as fuck, bi polar type of mood swings."
How long have you been feeling this way???
Few months. same amount of time been off pct
Yes go see a doctor tell him exactly what you did and don't worry everything is confidential.
Not true. Discussions and blood tests with your doctor will go in the medical history. Or it can anyway, unless your doctor is like a good friend and guarantees it won't. Private blood tests, follow the advice of these guys. If you're still fucked up after all that, then go to the doctor. If you're still fucked up, then yes, you will be on trt.
zewia few months.. Do yourself a favor and go see a fucking Doctor. Unless you can run a correct PCT--or if the HCG AI/Nova works. You are not in good shape. Everything is pointing to low Test.. and your body sure as fuck is not kicking over.
Not laid back, fairly confident as I usually was. little shit can make me sick to my stomach Im so mad
No! No cycle til you get bloodwork.. You're probably still shut down. Common sence before ya start planning a cycle. If.....and only if your results are good then its a first cycle repeat done correctly. Test only.
^^^this
No insurance
I guess ill just keep riding it out n waiting to get back to regular. hope its soon cus some days Im buggin
Seriously bro?! with the $$ dropped on gear and food you can't drop $50 on a blood test? I could paste half a dozen links to direct you to labs BUT I'll let you type BLOOD TESTS into the search bar yourself.
RUN FORREST RUN!
Ya I can do 50. what do I tell em though hah
GO TO THE SEARCH BAR GRASSHOPPA
How normal would it be for me to still be shut down? Or is there something wrong with me
Dude, this ain't no GNC bullshit. These are serious compounds we are dealing with here. THIS is why research and education are so vital. Could you have fucked up your axis? Possibly... First things first, get some bloodwork done and see where your at
I TRULY HOPE TO FUCK HE HASNT!... BUT I DO HOPE EVERY MEMBER WE HAVE ON BOARD READS THIS TO IMPRESS THE SEVERITY OF FUCKING AROUND WITH STEROIDS HALF ASSED!AND TO THE CERTAIN MEMBER WHO LEFT YOU A SARKY COMMENT ON YOUR OTHER THREAD THE OTHER DAY .... THIS MY FRIEND IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE ON A MISSION TO HELP THESE PEOPLE,WE SEE THIS SHIT HAPPEN ON A DAILY BASIS!THIS IS THE REASON FOR OUR BROTHERHOOD EITHER IT BE TRUE SCIENCE OR BRO-SCIENCE WE WILL CONSTANTLY ENDEAVOUR TO HELP THESE PEOPLE NO MATTER WHAT!
I didn't do it half assed. I was so strict on myself, great gains, etc. that's how I was even before I touched a roid but ever since the pct shit I just haven't been able to get back to normal n idk why. that's why I came on hereto ask
Should of done 12 weeks of that test e. I dont get test e gains for a minimum of 6 weeks, gains sky rocket 8-10 weeks. As for clomid, makes me sick too heres my little trick, take your clomid at night right before bed and sleep through the feelings.
if you do prop do 8 weeks and have do clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20 mg everyday for 4 weeks.
Sounds like youre kinda burnt out. take a week or two off with NO lifting, watch your body slowly turn back to crap and thats a good motivator to do work in the gym.
Im never taking clomid again lol. I did try at night. Id wake up in the middle of the night etc
when I DON'T work out Im a mess! Emotionally n shit
Then maybe AAS ain't for you bro, theres a lot of rollercoatering to be had in this lifestyle from sides and effects from different compounds ranging from well being to rage as well as the (almost) inevitable Post Cycle Depression that comes with coming OFF... Something to think about
When I don't work out is what that was supposed to say. Working out is my only way of getting me time and getting rid of stress
Clomid makes your balls function again! No clomid...no balls. No balls is exactly why "you dont feel right". Your balls are not functioning properly. Privatemeds blood test. Completely anonymous. They can't release results to anyone but you. Post em here and get help or that "feeling" will get worse.
I did use clomid for little under 2 weeks. but it was to the point I couldn't even see straight at times, couldn't eat, etc
zewiX2--IMO since he cant get bloods, everything is pointing to low test and his testis still not working..
Think he should get an AI..
do a 15 day blast of HCG while on his AI.. and then do a fucking correct PCT!!!!!
Should I try a natty t boost? N an ai or what?
Fully agree! Jumpstart...pct....time off for full recovery. Aro fully thru with your colaborated pct.
5'10" back to 170ish lbs
only ran test e for 10 weeks.
goals, get back to the focus,.determination, I had. quick results to give me the boost I feel I need to get back into it how I used to be. not really focusing on lifting heavy at the moment
Well first thing u want to do is get your diet in check and your training if u r just getting back in to it wait on the gear or u might hurt your self after that u can start thing 2nd cycle and ill be more then happy to help u with it
That's the problem that Im lacking ever since my first cycle. I have no drive. before I was like obsessed, literally. now if I miss.a.workout or.2 Im like oh well. Not seeing Mich results, diet isn't good since its not on my mind as much. Kind of sucks
Dam bro seems like you gotta read some motivation books or watch all those badass inspiring bodybuilding videos on youtube, thats always pumps me up,,, cuz if u really dont want it your not going to get it plain and simple.
Ya Im trying to get back into it as much as I was
states goals cycle history
What did your first look like and how long has it been since u have been off