posted Mon, 01/06/2014 - 14:29
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prami and letro help
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Hey guys, looking for someone with experience on these two compounds to give advice and dosing info. Also I currently started a tren a and test c cycle. Running tren 50 mg ed and test c 500 wk. I have some pre existing gyno that I've read a lot of guys have had success with these two compounds, I'm not looking for miracles, just improvements, thanks guys
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You want to shrink your gyno, so you jump on a cycle and don't even have a dosing protocol. Have you even started your prami?
What have you done to try and shrink the gyno? Was it from puberty or a cycle - what compounds?
What's your logic behind doing 500mg of test C a week.
This is a garbage ass thread. Edit the post with some detail. Shit, throw in some paragraphs.
X2 bro
If you don't like my post, don't read it. I came to eroids for advice, if you don't like my cycle, address me like an adult, not a child. Shit, no wonder why people don't come on these sites for advice, maybe you had a bad day, but your response got my attention, so disregard my handle, there is a lot of decent people on here, your advice is useless
I come to forums to read. If there is garbage, I'll call it. All my questions are pertinent for you to get the answers you want. Nobody will tell you to throw high dose letro at gyno you developed in puberty. Do we know if it that is what it is, no.
I'll tell you dosing, if you answer the questions.
Fair enough, I'm 35, I've been lifting for 15 years, couldn't give you a bf percentage but athletic. I have run several test e/ deca cycles in my past. Always used nolva or Clomid as pct, never had a problem. This is not puberty gyno, to be honest, I'm not sure what kind it is, because I've been reading on here there is two different kinds. I'll take you too when it
started.
A couple months ago, actually more like a year ago. I tried a prohormone I bought offline, I believe it was dymethazine, but not sure now the name. Within a week, my nips were in pain, never felt anything like it. I stopped instantly, started some nolva, it started to feel better. I've never had an experience with gyno before, so I panicked. This spring, I noticed I was getting a sore lump under my nipple, almost around the nipple, the bottom and i could feel it above too. I went to the doc, kinda scared, he just said not to worry about it.
When I lift my arm up, I can see it, it bothers me, I'm not as lean as normal, but I fear when I cut up before the summer, you'll really be able to see it. Not to mention, it's tender to the touch. I took the advice from a guy at the gym to run a tren test cycle, he said it helped with his, but I've been reading about letro and nolva on here, sounds like a better plan, I'm only one week in this cycle and have no problem, cuting it off now, if that would improve my situation, so I hope this helps with a decision, I'm just looking for help
Good, detailed layout of events. Your gym friend is a moron. We don't jump back on cycles when there is an issue that needs addressing. Another cycle more than likely will only compound the problem. Additionally, running a cycle and then crashing estrogen for a month of the cycle is super counterproductive and a waste of money.
How far into this new cycle are you?
Just 1 250 mg dose of test and 2 50 mg doses of tren, so just started
You have a decent chance at shrinking this down, so let the rays of optimism shine on you. No more test or tren. This new cycle is officially over.
You will start with .25mg of letrozole, and bump it up by .25mg everyday. You will stop increasing by .25mg, once you get to 2.5mg a day (day ten). You then continue taking 2.5mg everyday until the lumps have shrunk down. This could take several weeks. Once you have shrank the lumps, you will taper down at .25mg a day. At the last dosing of .25mg, you begin taking nolvadex at 20mg a day for one week. I suggest you get your estrogen levels checked at the end of week one. Then post the levels here for further advise. Without blood work, you would drop nolvadex to 10mg a day for another week.
At this point, you could come off nolva but if your estrogen is still high when you do so the gyno will come back. That is why you need to check your estrogen levels so you know when to drop nolva.
You more than likely don't need prami. You can run prami year round without issues. So you could dose prami at .25mg a day during this process, if you'd like.
See I'm not not that big of a dick. I just like all relevant information
I agree with most of the comments you've made so far up to this point. Letro Is a big mistake for trying to solve gyno, let alone not as effective as other compounds. if you want to really have the best chances for shrinking gyno Raloxifene is your best option dosed at 60 mg. The second best option is Nolvadex at 20 mg. Be prepared for a 60 day ordeal at the very least. This type of treatment has been effective both with pubescent and non-pubescent. In regards to the above dosages the first week should be doubled. So it would be 120 mg Raloxifene or 40 mg Nolvadex
The problem with crushing your estrogen is that it somewhat works, but it's unhealthy and not as effective as using a SERM. They've done countless studies on this.
I have to disagree here. I've read all the studies on Raloxifene. It sounds like a great solution, but I've never seen it work it's magic in person. I know Letro works. If I were to use Raloxifene for gyno it would replace Nolva in my Letro protocol, but I'd still be hesitant. It's my understanding evista is counterfeited often and research companies for this compound would have me second guessing myself.
I have first hand experience with Letro knocking out half dollar size gyno and quarter sized gyno. My lipids suffering from Letro use is a small price, in comparison to six grand to surgically remove it.
I think the reason a lot of people get frustrated with Raloxifene is because they don't run it long enough. It's at least a 60 day process if not 90 days. As far as things being counterfeited that's a whole different story and probably for a different post. I see your point if people can't get it but in that case Nolvadex is still more effective then letro. I guess everybody chooses their own path.
Perfect bro, thank you. I was just going to use the prami because guys are saying that letro destroys the libido, and I have a very horny honey at home. What's your experience with that,, and thanks again, the cycle is over
Lol, prami may help but you need to get comfortable with the fact your dick isn't going to work. Definitely explain this to the wife so she is prepared. Mentally you won't want sex. Hard to explain but you will soon know. I could have three chicks ready to bang my brains out, and on letro I'd just be like "meh, maybe another time".
Its not impossible to get hard. Have tadalafil or some other ED compound on hand. Take prami at.25mg. I'd suggest at night time.
Thanks bro, I could give a shit about sex, I just want this lump gone. I really appreciate your help, sorry about our bad start. I'll keep everyone posted on my results
No worries, glad you have a plan. Don't forget to eat her out. Can't leave her hanging for long ;)