+ 1 infertility need for PCT
Hi,
I am destined to use a TRT dose of T until old age so now I'm coming to the end of my first 12 week cycle (300mg T Enth per week after a few weeks of messing around with sustanon) is it necessary to do PCT? Your answer may be different to the usual as I am unfortunately already infertile with no room for becoming fertile.
Could I just simply drop form 300mg a week to 150mg a week? and stay there until I want to blast again in a few months.
My understanding is PCT is used to restart your natural T production so you can still make useful sperm etc. Well if my sperm don't exist and my T levels need boosting with synthetic T anyways... is there a use for PCT?
I may be missing an important point here but that's why I'm asking the question.
Thanks everyone
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I mean, PCT is just for being fertile again. While on cycle, you have shut down your HPTA. If you come off of test then you will ABSOLUTELY need to PCT. you will not feel normal with your HPTA shut down like that. not just for sperm production. You have to ask yourself, "Do I want to stay on test forever or do I want to PCT, take some time off then maybe try another cycle later one?" I cruise on test until I want to blast again but thats just the decision I made. You need to do some more reading and research because if you thought PCT was just for your sperm production then you need to take a step back, do some research and talk to people on here and then maybe try it again. Some people use HCG while cruising and blasting and some dont. I believe using HCG while on test is for positive feedback loop for your HPTA.
Evening all, thank you for your replies and sorry it has taken me so long to acknowledge your input!
Taking on board your advice and after more reading I reckon am going for the following:
- drop testE from 350mg to 200mg per week
- at the same time start 2500 iu's of HCG 2x per week for 3 weeks
- after 3 weeks get fulls bloods
- if nothing stands out from bloods and gonads are back to size then continue to cruise at 200mg testE.
Have i missed a trick here? or does this sound ok?
RoidwarehouseHuge advocate of HcG that should aid you massively whilst undergoing TRT
PCT isn't just for being able to produce viable sperm. It restores your natural HPTA so you feel normal unlike you would with low T.
If you're staying on TRT, use HCG, it helps stimulate the gonads to keep you somewhat or slightly "fertile," but also helps further avoid shrinkage. After a big cycle, you need to get bloodwork and see. Since fertility is not of concern for you currently, only in certain circumstances would I recommend coming off trt. Like, if your SHBG is tanked into the single digits it may be time to take some clomid for a short period of time to get this back up, then return to TRT. I'm also a firm believer that it would be ideal to come off at certain times completely and try to stimulate your system again using something like Clomid.
For the most part there is no need in using clomid or nolva or PCT after your blast. You just cruise and begin HCG. If you're going to blast and cruise - no you won't really have a need for PCT (unless for those unique circumstances above, which some may disagree with). Again, HCG also helps with shrinkage and gaining testicular size back after a blast and avoid them from further shrinking in the future on your cruise.