desperate help needed for bloodwork anyone please?
Hi guys,
If anyone could help me out here I would be massively appreciative.
I'm 26 been training for around 7 years and began gear around 2 years ago.
I have been on a blast and cruise for the last 9 months but now have come off as i'm leaving my job and going traveling around the world for 12 months.
This of course was not planned before I started my cycle.
The Blast and cruise consisted of test e at 500/750 Blast - 150mg cruise, I also used a few orals in the blasts.
I regrettably didn't use hcg during cycle.
My last pin was 150mg test e on 13/07 and then the following day i began the 'power pct' protocol 2000iu hcg eod for 20 days, 100mg clomid and 40mg nova.
I had some bloods yesterday 10/08 and the results are;
dhea - 13.6
FSH 2.47
LH 4.17
test - 8.25 nmol/L
sex hormone binding glob 31.8
free androgen index 25.94
my free test looks right at the bottom end of the scale, and my dhea is above the top range.
I go traveling in 4 and a half weeks time and I'm worried I'm not going to recover and be shutdown which will ruin the whole experience.
Can anyone tell me what you think or on what I should do?
I plan on continuing clomid and nova for the next 4 weeks then having more bloods done just before I leave.
Thank you
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1) Cancel your trip.
2) See a doctor.
3) Now is not the time to take short cuts.
4) Grow up,.......... the rest of your life depends on what you do next.
Stop blasting and cruising, 26 is way to young to be on trt for the rest of your life. You started your pct way to early , need to wait for test to clear . Continue your clonidine and nolva for another 4 weeks and like everyone else has said use pharm grade not ugl. Good luck bro and see a doctor when you return.
I've discussed this with Pale and unfortunately testicular amputation is the only way to go. Full eunuch is your future.....
Now in all seriousness and I'm not going to how much if a dumb fuck your are because I bet you know that right now I suggest you continue your PCT taking 50mg clomid and 20mg tamoxifen daily for the next 4 weeks and during your trip. Get back, take four week off and pull bloods including estrodial this time and report back here.
Good luck and seriously grow the fuck up or you really will be a frigging eunuch!
Edit: btw you fucked up your power PCT. You did it all wrong so next time do some research and come and ask for some help. You'll get deservedly flamed but take it like a man and most of us will in the end help you.
Thank you, I expected to get roasted yes. However no one knows me or my circumstances personally. I was planning on competing next year but now see it was a dumb idea to blast and cruise is was never my intention when I started the cycle. I followed the power pct posted by dr schally himself I thought I had done research before hand. My trip is for 12 months so I won't be able to take pct meds for the whole time.
I'm going to get bloods done in another 2 weeks to see if there is any improvement, if not do you think it would be wise to blast hcg for a couple of weeks then continue back on clomid and nova for 4 weeks whilst I'm away?
Appreciate the support
Basically you've royaly screwed the pooch here. Not only have you potentially fucked your axis for life but you will almost certainly have issues on your 12month trip. What were you thinking?
Do not take the HCG this will just desensitise your LH receptors. Your LH and FSH levels are ok (not great but ok) and so these need to continue to be stimulated and your nuts given more time to hopefully come back on line properly. This whole process may take up to a year given you were blasting and cruising for so long. So my advise is take the clomid and nolva (this must be Pharmagrade - do not use ugl pct meds) as I've said for the next four weeks then stop and pray you recover. After 3 months find a clinic where you're travelling and get some blood taken to see how your recovery is going. Going to see a doctor now give you are going to be travelling in 4.5 weeks for the next 12 months will be pointless.
I dont believe you did the power PCT properly. Should have waited for the exogenous test to have cleared before staring the clomid and nolva. The way I would do this is run the HCG as you did for 30 days but would have started the clomid and nolva on day 21 to 28.
Best of luck to you.
Thank you, just for info I did 2 blasts 12 weeks each, one with 750mg test e and 40mg dbol for first 5 weeks then another several months later with 750mg test e and 8 weeks of anavar for the last 8, cruised at 150mg test per week
I want to be honest and say you deserve it. You are on the best site for information there is. You know its a dumb fkn thing to do but you still did it. Now that it matters the most you may have fucked yourself for life. Good luck on your big trip and when the ladies drool over your massive muscles cruising on test did for you and when they try to get your 2 incher hard and cant. Go see a doctor and tell him how stupid you are and hope he can get you back to normal. I think the worst part is you will bounce back and then start cycling and cruising again.
Explain " the few orals "
Type?
Length?
Be honest in everything you took.
Looks like your pituitary hasn't fully kicked in yet. After your blast, that might just take a while to happen.
Your dosages are on the higher end; I see 20mg/50mg of tamoxifen/clomifene for six weeks more often these days than 40/100 for 4. I find that more reasonable, it's like like you have high hormone levels during PCT for these to suppress anyway.
I'd suggest continuing your PCT and take bloods again. If it doesn't work, do see a doctor though. Same applies if you experience any low-T sides that make life uncomfortable, like recurring mood swings or anxiety. Beyond that, don't freak yourself out too much.
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You are both correct, however I would really appreciate some advice, do those bloods really look that bad?
And it wasn't planned but I came off to try and receiver before I go
noguruYou're test levels are below ref range. No one can tell if they will rise, lower or stay.
noguruI would delay the trip untill I was 100% sure that I recovered. Only time and blood results can tell.
Thanks for the reply man, I'm afraid that's not an option it's all booked and I've left my job, my partner too so I can't just cancel the whole thing
What do you think of the bloods?
noguruThis is very unwise planning. I wouldn't plan a trip like that 2 months after a 9month b&c.
This is why this site doesn't condone the use of AAS under the age of 25 and why we don't give advice to kids under 25.
Guess you're going to have to be a big boy and go see the doctor now.
Started blast and cruise when you were 24 SMH. You kids think it's all a game until something happens then you're all like help me help me help me fix me fix me fix me... how about next time you do proper research and take actual advice from people who know what they're talking about... YOLO
sunamcaha1everybody do mistakes, but important thing is if you learned something from it
Problem is, OP did not learn, only reason he stopped was because of his big trip. Now he more then likely fucked himself at a young age for what? Vanity?
You for example, I bet you are younger then 25 and you blast and cruise too. Your profile pics show a very skinny guy doing fkn aas so you certainly did not learn a lesson at all. Go eat a fkn hamburger and fill that needle with fat instead of test.
sunamcaha1okey bro I will shut up.
That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever fucking heard in respect to using AAS you twat.
Lol.
Im liking your style bro!!