posted Mon, 02/24/2014 - 11:40
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THIGH INJECTIONS
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SO I HAVE FOUND HERE LATELY THAT I LOVE THE THIGH INJECTION THE BEST... NEVER ANY ISSUE'S WHAT SO EVER AT ALL... BUT WITH THE CC's I'M RUNNING TWICE A WEEK, I WAS WONDERING IF 4CC-5CC IN THE THIGH IS TO MUCH... I'M HITTING IT WITH 3CC RIGHT NOW AND ALL IS GOOD...
WHAT YA THINK!!!
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I think it depends on the person. Ive been doing this for 20+ years
and still have problems injecting anything into my quads. Its glutes
delts and biceps primarily for me now.
Just a little update since last time you guys got a laugh... LoL :-)
I've read everything that has been posted and them some... I really do appreciate the advise that was given...
I now use the 8+ pins spots...
Twice a week I hit myself with
1cc of EQ 300
1cc of Tren Ace 125
1cc of Test P 125
Quad no more than 2cc
Delts no more than 1.25cc
Glute no more than 2.5cc
JUST WANTED TO SAY THANKS AGAIN!!!
RustyhookerYou dont understand steroids at all if thats your dosing. You're gonna hurt yourself badly
ummm maybe i should have explained it a little better... i sent you a pm...
that does look pretty messed up how i put that...
RustyhookerWith ace living like 1.5 days. Yup. Will check pm
There is a lot of great info...
I really do thank you all for good info...
I always rotate...
Its always been 2-3cc in the glute, but usually always 2cc...
I stick with the 1.5-2cc in the shoulder...
And for the its always going to be no more than 3cc, after all the info...
It was just a thought of mine...
5cc per week in the quad is a NO NO. Only the glutes can take that much. Max in the quad is 2ml and max in the delt is 2ml, Glutes can go up to 5 per side.
I think the advice that you have given in this post is pretty solid. And even though I am a pretty conservative guy I feel comfortable going up to 3 mL in the quad. On the other hand I would never do 5 mL at one time in any spot, not even glutes. Why take the chance when I have over a dozen spots to choose from.
Just my two cents.
I do use the glute, and always use the shoulder... just like the thigh better thats all... thanks for the test info... i do have ananvar, was only running this for 16 weeks then was going to run deca, anadrol and test... like i said guys just still a little new at this obviously... why the hate you started as a rookie once before too... I tought i did the research i needed to do for what i wanted to do... guess im human...
No one is hating on you...just saying more isnt always better, sometimes its just more...whats your goal with this cycle?
Working towards in the long run the ripped look, but strength, and 10-25 lbs of muscle... 25 lbs is a long shot... :-) My strength and gains are threw the roof and I've got some size...
Never tried more then 2.5 but ramping up is good. I just made a post about my quad destruction from a 2.25cc prop shot on muscle that has been virgin for months.
http://pharmlabs.unc.edu/labs/parenterals/intramuscular.htm
Here is some info. However this is for the majority of the population and I'm going to say you're larger than average lol.So i think you could do more
In school we learned the deltoid can take up to 3ml in a larger individual and that is the smallest of the three main targets for IM injections.
What it comes to though really is how much can you tolerate? A new user could prob barely handle 1ml, while I can handle 3ml in the shoulder twice a week. I think if you're nothaving issues with your injections, 4-5ml (or CC if you prefer) would be okay. Just start it at 3.5ml then 4 then 4.5 then 5.
RustyhookerThis guys using ONLY quads. So you like him hitting up to 5cc/week per quad?
Also in those medical guides, thats a per day recommendation too, not a per week.
RustyhookerNot correct buddy. They may list a per day because who sits in Dr getting 5cc per day? You build up that type of oil you get sterile abscess or cellulitis. If I'm running low dosed gear i always splkit with no more than 2cc in large groups. Get 8+ pin spots to avoid scar tissue and sterile abscess.
I personally would prefer delts and quads but if he can handle it, he can handle it. Keep in mind most of those medical reference guides are for the average person. If the average person's quad can take 2ml, then im sure a bodybuilder could take more. It would be better to split it up though.
Instead of doing it Monday 5ml left quad, thursday 5ml right quad, he would be better off doing monday am right quad 2.5ml, tuesday pm, 2.5ml left quad, thursday am right quad 2.5ml, friday pm left quad 2.5ml
Also incorrect; you must rotate once a week and 5ml is the maximum regardless of how big someone is and that is in the glute, the more you inject the higher your chances of absesses and infections. 3ml is the maximum even a doctor would administer for cancer patients.
http://www.oncologynurseadvisor.com/large-volume-im-injections-a-review-...
quoted
IM injections are administered in five potential sites: deltoid (commonly used for adult vaccinations), dorsogluteal, ventrogluteal, rectus femoris, and vastus lateralis3,10,11 (Figure 1). Maximum volumes have been proposed across the various IM sites for adult patients3,12-16 (Table 1). Overall, 5 mL has been cited for adults as the maximum volume for a single IM injection, with lower maximums proposed for adult patients with less-developed or small muscle mass.3,13,14 

what they show in the article is the glute muscle
here is another article that says you should not do 5ml at once but split it into 2 2.5ml and use 2 different sites
http://www.brooksidepress.org/Products/Administer_IM_SQ_and_ID_Injection...
quoted:
(c) Remember, if an injection is given outside of the upper outer quadrant, irreparable injury may be done to the sciatic nerve or the needle may penetrate the gluteal artery and this can cause significant bleeding from the vessel.
(d) If 5 cc is to be given, the medication should be divided into 2 doses and injected into separate sites with a maximum of 2.5 cc per dose.
(e) The needle length should not exceed one and one-half inches. A one and one-fourth inch needle is commonly used.
(f) If the patient is receiving a number of intramuscular injections over a prolonged period, the site of injection should be rotated. A record in sites must be kept on the patient's chart for this purpose.
Thigh or quads as quoted:
(a) The volume of medication given in this site can be up to two milliliters injection in an adult.
(b) The needle length must not be less than one inch and should not exceed one and one-half inches for adults. A one and one-fourth inch needle is commonly used.
(c) To administer an injection, make sure the patient's lateral thigh is completely exposed so you can visualize the injection site. The patient should be lying on his back (supine) or seated.
(d) Do not inject into the areas close to the knee or hip bone.
(e) There are no main blood vessels or nerve trunks in the lateral thigh injection site. There is a cutaneous nerve (lateral femoral) superficially located and sometimes damage to these nerves is reported.
Deltoid as quoted:
The safe area for injection is generally defined as about three fingers below the shoulder joint.
(b) The needle length of one inch is normally used because of the size of the deltoid muscle.
(c) The volume of medication given in this site can be up to a maximum of one milliliter per injection for an adult. A volume of 0.5 milliliter or less is more commonly used.
(d) The shoulder should be completely exposed so you can determine the exact location of the injection. The clothing should not be rolled up to attempt to administer an injection.
(e) Ensure that the patient is in a standing or sitting position, with the arm at side and muscles relaxed. Direct the patient to hang the arm loose.
Funny thing is this is taken from a school textbook so you saying in school you were taught that the body can take more; you need to get that teacher fired. I used that textbook when i went to school.
Quads 3ml
Glutes 3ml
Delts 3ml
Pecs 2.5ml
Rear delts 2.5ml
Front delts 1.5ml
I never have tried pecs but now i know lol thanks for the link!
I said 3ml is the max for the delt, that I was taught in school. Ive noticed on a personal basis the human body can adapt which is why he could always ramp up slowly.But as I also said before, it would be better if rotated like I said with the schedule I posted.
I personally hate the glutes because of how easy it is to damage the sciatic nerve. In fact, they didn't even test us on IM injections on the glutes because the thinking has been its so much safer to do it in the vastus lateralis or the deltoids.
we had actual cadavors we injected for our quiz.
Rustyhooker1.25 in my delts is bout all i can go :(
Going big pins also raises lumps if ya hit super low bf levels.
I did 1.5 once........once lol
RustyhookerMasteron too?
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/crystals-in-my...
the masteron was for my brother... im not taking that... thank you for the forum...
WELL JUST LOOKING FOR INFO MAN... I SEE YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE, AND PROLLY DONT LIKE ROOKIE USERS DUMB QUESTIONS... SO HER WE GO!!!
500 MG TREN
750 MG EQ
850 MG TEST
TOTAL A WEEK...
IM JUST NOT BIG IN THE GLUTES,DELTS AND LIKE TO KEEP IT AT RIGHT AROUND 1.5-2CC IN THE SHOULDER... THANKS FOR THE TIME...
Wheres the winny, deca, and anavar?...this cycle is weak!...lol.or retarded..'maybe you wouldnt have to worry about how many ml and where if you didnt have so much extra shit..
That is a lot of compounds you are putting into your body along with high dosages for someone of your size.
You really don't need that much. You could probably do everything you ever wanted at 600 mg of test if you dial in your nutrition and training. Then you wouldn't have to worry about squeezing 4 mL to 5 mL into a particular site ( way too much in my opinion, 3 mL is pushing it).
Wow... another BIG user..... tell me bro, how many CCs in total do you pin in a week?..... intrigued looking at your stats.
stats........