posted Sat, 07/30/2016 - 22:30
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Tbol < dbol
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So I decided to toss out the dbol and replace it with tbol instead. I will be running test and deca also. I'm running 500mg test E, 300mg deca per week and 50mg tbol everyday for first 5 weeks. Since I'm a powerlifter looking for strength, I don't want 30lbs of mass. I'm 5'7 183lbs LEAN at the moment. With this type of cycle will I be able to stay under or around the 200lb mark if I eat clean? Or will the Deca just absolutely blow me the fuck up
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One more thing, what dosage should I run tbol? My first time running it. Ran all my dbol at 30mg a day so what would be the sweet spot for tbol?
Bro, you cannot "lean bulk." Don't even try it. If it were possible all of us who bodybuild on both the amateur and professional levels would do it, but it doesn't work. And we don't try.
I have some ideas here but before I comment - what is your cycle history bro? Your 5' 7" 183 which at your height is starting to get big,
https://www.eroids.com/pics/natty-gains-0
Over the last 5 years I've ran some good cycles. Test E, Test E /Dbol, Test C/ Masteron/ halodrol. A couple more but never had deca in the mix because I've always been a bit afraid of it. I have 17.1" arms, 30" waist and 26.5" quads. I'll post pic.
Bro, you have a nice muscle base. Good to see that. Deca is going to draw in some water but 300 mg is low but effective enough and appropriate for an introduction to the compound. Your choice to swap tbol for dbol should help control the bloat at least at the beginning. Normally, with your first deca run we would run Test twice as high as deca to contain possible deca sides, but I don't want you prematurely increasing your Test base dose if you don't need to, so let's see how Test 500 Deca 300 goes. I would just run 4 weeks of tbol 50 mg. I start my AI in week one. Watch your E2 with your mid cycle blood test - it's important to control on deca. I don't think deca at 300 is going to necessitate the use of a DA, but I would have caber on hand nonetheless. I would also extend the cycle to 14 weeks dropping the deca at week 12 to get the most out of deca which takes a long time to kick. Get your diet dialed in the diet section. You are not going to look like the Goodyear blimp with these dosages! LMAO
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/diet-clinic-now-live
I want you to think this through on your own. Post the cycle up in the cycle logs section with your AI and with your PCT and your "on hand" DA before you finalize this. I don't PCT any more and I think the standard PCT will be OK with deca at 300 for 12 weeks but let's see if the PCT gurus think it should be more aggressive. But, research and include the standard PCT.
I don't want to do more than this with you right now. There are other nice to have things that could be added but I think at the stage you are at with anabolics is still one where simplicity should govern.
Let's also see how your test levels are in your pre-cycle blood work as well as E2 and everything else.
You can cut on Deca just as easily as you can bulk with it. That's 90% your diet bro. I lost 11 pounds my last Deca cycle because I was eating right, also got strong as fuck. I do not get nearly as strong on Tbol as I do with dbol...but I've kept my Tbol gains and I lose 80% of my dbol gains so it's up to you. Not sure if you want more power now, and lose most of it afterwards. Or you want to slowly gain strength that you can keep. But again on the Decca and test, whether it's a bulk or card or just for strength is going to rely on your diet.