posted Wed, 12/02/2015 - 14:03
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+ 3 Steroid that gives you the worst side effect?
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For me it's Dbol.. Anything above 20mg a day and my nipples puff out like mini tents out of my tshirt.. And the acne hits. This is with a mixture of different dosages of adex or aromasin, caber/Ralox.
I can never get along with the stuff unfortunately, about a week in and bang my nipple go no metal.. saying this I'm giving it one final go at the end of my current cycle to help push passed some barriers. Oestrogen has not been a problem in this in fact it's been nailed so I'm going to steadily increase my ai dose and start on 20mg ED and see what happens. Any advise welcomed.
What compound gives you the worst sides?
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Cha-ching! Ive never had good luck with deca...always got bloated like the michelin man. I most likely was eating way to many carbs...well obviously. Ordered some recently to try again as I got a wild hair. Will cut down on carbs big time when I decide to use it. Thanks for the token Vike! Knuckles
i used to have a picture up showing how dry i was on Deca, let me see if i can find it and i will re-post it in the pic section bro................. trust me bro thats the way to dominate Deca
Right on! It really is amazing just how much diet dictates the outcome of what you use. I havent had any type of goal for awhile...just always lift like a crazy bastard and shovel food in and let my body do what its going to do. Well now Im motivated to control what my body does! Its easy for me to be the juggernaut...now I want to be a fkn specimen! Will keep an eye out for your pic of DOMINATION! Great fkn word too!
just posted these bro............... they have been up before but just to show you the finish.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/for-brother-bolt-deca-with-low-carbs
Its not on the radar any longer and for good reason I believe....but mine was mibolerone. An instant jeckyll and hyde transformation with no way of controlling ones self...at all! Strength increase so severe, injury was a real probability each time it was ingested. Nose bleeds from both nostrils while lifting and outside of lifting...head pounding migraines(ears ringing) diarrhea, indigestion/having to re swallow semi digested food while in public...but the pumps and literally superhuman moments were that which I have never experienced after....but Id have to be a pure asshole to even contemplate touching that shit ever again. I honestly see myself under dirt if I had used that shit any longer than I did back then...
That sounds like one hell of a trip. I'll have to look into what the hell the compound is out of pure curiosity! Thanks for sharing.
If you get bad side effects from dbol and are asking about it then likely still like it. Maybe you can try something else similar like Turinabol. It has similar effects Such as, size and strength gains. If dbol is too hard on you then just don't use it. There are so many options out there.
A good antidote would be when me and my then girlfriend first tried anal.. She said it hurt, was painful and wasn't enjoying it.. I carried on like a trooper.. Trying different things, more lube, toys, wine.
Well by the time we parted ways she loved it and worked well in our bedroom play.
Eroids approved!
so u finally got that ass huh? congrats! (high fives)
I just read through the thread and it took me back in time to the first time i ever read Dan Duchaines Underground steroid handbook (first edition) when it was all we had to research anything steroid related.
There wasnt anything really scientific in it, and all comparisons about feel or use of a certain compound were relaid in a way that the average joe reader could relay too and understand in a real world manner.
Anyway .. let me get to the point, in it i remember Duchaine stating that once a steroid user got to the stage were he was using substantial dosage or an array comprising multi-elements the use rcould/would display all the symptoms of a heavy Alcohol user, i.e BP issues, headaches, break outs, sweats,etc etc etc... basically everything the guys below have outlined from their own experiences.... back then i didnt fully understand, but now it all rings true.
So apart from swapping out Hypertrophy as regards Atrophy.... we all have to contend with ALL (and more) the same bad side effects as an alcoholic. (or heavy alcohol user)
From my personal steroid usage which next june will total 35 years i must admit i totally agree with Mr Dan Duchaine.
So... the saying "what dont kill you makes you stronger" still stands if you user takes caution and doesnt abuse (regarding steroids and alcohol) but! abuse either and you will either die or be left badly scarred for life.
Experiment but learn well guys, you are the master of your own destiny
Yep, I had to seriously cut down on usage for all those reasons. High BP, high RBC, headaches, soaked sheets...
I'm not huge like I was, but I'm happy with my look these days with moderate doses. Tren free for almost 3 years.
I like when you become compelled to really dig into a post brother! Another "cha-ching" moment one can run across here...knuckles!
Thanks man............ BroFist ;)
What an animal you are! Well spoken and how true.
thanks bro... im glad you understood what i was getting at, i thought i had worded it a bit strange lol
It took me a minute but it's spot on. I'm so happy I found this community. So much knowledge I must soak in.
start using the search function on the top bar bro and eroids becomes an encyclopedia, just type a search word or members name and it will list everything that has ever been said about the certain comment/item etc....... welcome aboard bro........... heres another 3 lets get that karma climbing
Thanks brother I'm all over it!!
Took me 2 reads to fully understand that. It's not a race to the finish line...
RustyhookerThats golden! ^^^^^
RustyhookerWhy not switch to tbol? Or var? Var is highly anabolic with great gains in strength for me.
Or ghrp6 to boost feeding and get past the hurdles
In my experience ghrp-6 wasnt enough to get past the appetite supression of orals. They just murder my appetite to the point where i have no interest in food, and when i do eat it never digests. Drols the only one that doesnt, last time i ran anything other then it after 3 days my appetite was gone and it took another 5 days for it to come back. Its alright though injects are whats going to give one the real long lasting and serious size gains, without the liver and kidney stress.
RustyhookerHardest part of all this is its never cut and dry. Ive not yet run drol but have a chunk of it.
youd love it rusty. drol is hands down my favorite oral. becoming my favorite compound. no bloat, just vascualr and big. it looks like every muscle was pumped up with a bicycle pump. like hard, veiny, balloons of muscle. it really does grow you from the inside out not like dbol. no subq water for me at least, i just "pop" everywhere and look tighter but much larger in all the right places. no other compound gives what anadrol can deliever ime
It's more out of morbid curiosity than anything else, I have them in my stash and I'm feeling confident this time, if I do suffer sides I'll drop the Dbol and not mess with the stuff again!
Ghrp6 is on my list of things to look into actually, thank you.
RustyhookerVery true. Dbol is so short you can adjust. Im about to run dbol again in couple weeks but aiming at just 15mg and adjust up if needed.
In all fairness I've made great gains and 0 sides from 20! Keen to see what 20+ brings.
RustyhookerAt just 15 of the old pharma brands, id split 5mg by 3 per day on gym days. The glycogen and water bumped me up 2 pounds and strength/pumps were amazing. Didn't have sides at that dose but focused big time. Im excited to run it again. See if I still respond well.
Good luck sir
the only sides i really get is appetite supression and acne, dbol gives me acne, tren, and every oral and except anadrol kills my appetite. Got some tbol on the way im gonna run this summer, will see if that fucks with my appetite or not. And heart burn from tren and all orals but some nexium takes care of that for me.
Dbol give me terrible heartburn no matter how I take it. Anadrol jacks my bp up, headache etc
Any other compounds give you grief?
Winstrol is really bad, but I work in an environment that requires a lot of finger dexterity and bending, reaching etc so I think it just amplifies a problem that was already there.
Jesus Christ how did I forget Winstrol! Stuff is terrible.. Far worse than Dbol haha
bigurielFunny how one can love a drug and someone else hates it. Most people love dbol, but I get such bad lethargy on it that just thinking about it makes me sleepy. Not a lot of gains from it either, lots of bloat and good pumps but not much muscle left after the cycle for me.
On the other hand I feel fantastic on winstrol, great strength gains, great stamina (cardio is a breeze), rock hard muscles and great vascularity. I feel like a high performance machine on winstrol. The only really noticeable side is the joint pain, stiffens up my shoulders noticeably so need to be extra careful with that.
DeathstrokeI tried Tren ace and hated everyday of it lol! The trensomnia put me in a horrible and tired mood. I felt weaker from lack of sleep and it totally killed my sex drive. Cardio went to Hell to, it's just not for me I like my sleep.
So many stories similar to yours if not worse! Keep safe bro.
orals. i never really feel great on orals and they kill my apatite. never use them except the very last few weeks pre contest.
if you know you dont handle dbol well i would personally stop trying to push the issue. my cycles have been so much more productive since i have figured out what my body responds well too and what it has a hard time with. if we feel like crap, have estro issues, kill our apatite, become unhappy or too moody (or sometimes volatile lol) on certain steroids they end up being counter productive. there is a learning curve, but once you start to get in tune with your body you can really get things going. use gear smarter, dont push gear harder.
there are plenty of alternatives to dbol. you could skip a kick start all together, or kickstart with shorter esters if your comfortable with that. it all depends on your goals and experience.
Sound advice, this will the last chance saloon for the Arnold candy. As I said below I have a small amount gathering dust so I'd like to try to use them up (safely of course). If this little run isn't successful I'll give them to a friend, tell him they're 50's rather than 10's (so he doesn't get bigger than me).
Why bother with another try if you know already that your body doesn't tolerate it well? There are so many options. Don't mean to be rude, I would just avoid it.
I would love to say I'm an innovator and wan to see if I can get it right, which I guess is pet of the reason. But I have 300 pills or so laying around and I don't fancy giving them away till I try every possible way.
I usually use anadrol for my oral as its all pluses and no minuses.
Great advise though and couldn't agree more to be honest.
I got the same problem as you bro, i got probably a ton of pink thais and blue hearts, best dbol money can buy and the shit gives me the worst acne ever in just a few days. I hate it because its a fun drug the pumps are crazy i feel good on it it will add some real tissue in a short peroid of time, but it kills my appetite and gives me acne all over. Since then i switched to anadrol, same as you all pluses no negatives. No acne, no appetite supression, no extra acne. same good pumps, better strength increase but the only thing that sucks is you cant run it for 6 weeks like dbol and benefit the entire time drol stops working after like 3 week for me. which is why i got 2-3 weeks on and same time off and repeat. Its enough to pick up a few pounds of quality muscle.
Im interested in if you can make this work by increasing your ai, cause I really want to use all this dbol i have over the next few years and not have to trash them. The only way ive been able to keep the acne down at all is using low dose accutane and id much rather not do that with all the other stuff we take. keep this updated, im gonna favorite this post and check back.
Cheers bro, I'll keep you informed. Any advice welcome
X2! I'd give tbol a 4 week run instead. I hate dbol and don't see myself ever running it again for pretty much the same reasons.
I love tbol too. Less water retention and around 80mg it adds some serious mass. Love Winny too but my joints hate it so I stay away.
StevebSuperdrol and Boldenone with a short or no ester. Feels like you're dying.
Why superdrol? I hear the same about bold ace, stuff sounds horrible
ManimalKingWorst sides? Its a tie between....
Tren
Dbol
Adrol
Deca
All these fuck up my blood pressure :(
BP is the killer in our sport!
Tren for me.
I can't do orals, my stomach gets all fucked up.
What are the sides on tren for you?