posted Sun, 11/11/2012 - 10:06
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nandrolone phenylpropionate Vs. nandrolone decanoate
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What does everyone think about npp vs nandrolone decanoate as far as gains and sides? And starting dose for someone new to the 19nor family just wondering. doing some research on later cycles and trying to get as much knowledge now as possible. I know that what Im trying to do will take more than just test so just need some opinions. thanks for everyones help.
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Running veyron NPP atm. Made some good solid gains over the past month. Running it with prop & the pip is fucking unbelievable. If you do decide to go with it make sure you stack with a good amount of test, dont want the dreaded deca dick.
yeah deca dick is one turn off I had about this compound. my wife would be pissed.lol
It would be horrible, but like i mentioned as long as you run it with at least a 1:1 ratio (im currently at 1:3)of test you should be right. Atm i could punch holes in the wall with my hard-ons so no probs here. Also if you do go with npp remember it is a fast acting ester so you would need to front load if you are using test E or C to avoid a droppy dong.
good point. dont want that happening.lol will deff keep in mind.
where did everybody go. come on guys just looking for everyones experience with these compounds,pro cons and what I should look out for. need more than what im getting here. Im not doing this for awhile need some good info. not many people talk about npp on here so need help on the info.please
Bro what else do you need? If you don't have any experience with compound then start with a short ester... Not rocket science
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/npp-seen-a-lot... I posted this a few months back every thing you are looking for
thanks man just what I needed. It's hard to find info on npp I can find ND info all day long.
Goal dependant bro, I've become a huge nandro fan (cuz I'm getting older) so ill run deca at low doses for longer cycles and I'll do npp bursts (4ON/4OFF) on shorter cycles. It would be a greater help if you provided cycle history and goals...
So lets say I ran test C or E at 750 for 15-16 wks using the (4on/4off) protocol, what dose would you recommend? this Idea looks more like something I would like to try than running all the way through. seems to me It would yeld better quality gains and fewer sides.
im on my first real cycle now. of test c 250 2x per week. like i said not going to do this anytime soon,just getting my facts striaght. plan on running some more test cycles and find my sweet spot. my goal is to get my pro card which i know ive got a few years before that happens.lol no but really just looking right now for sold and as lean gains as possible. easier to keep pct.
because of the short ester in npp and sides coming faster. would it be easier to controll the prolactin sides?
Easier? By nature short esters are more manageable in that your worst case scenario is you run them out in a few days. What it comes down to is personal susceptibility to sides. 19's can be rough on some people so if you have ZERO experience with 19's then the obvious choice is to go short and stay within the learning curve...
Anongood question. i would think that, because the prolactin sides are a result of interactions with nandrolone and your body, the faster acting ester would ultimately yeild the sides more rapidly. keep in mind that some people do not get these sides with nandrolone.
decanoate is a very long ester. that means more bloat. it also means having traces of nandrolone in your system for a long time after your last injection. it has a 15 day half-life. a 300 mg shot of deca would leave about 75 milligrams of deca a month after the shot. and since nandrolone is very suppressive, it can leave you shut down for a long time.
in conclusion, i think npp is the better option.
A lot of guys on this site have been having issues with deca dwelling in their system way after pct making recovery difficult.. That's good enough reason with me to choose npp over deca
Anonnandrolone would be the primary compound that has the properties you desire. phenylpropionate would be the ester it is paired with. this particular ester has a relatively short active live (approx. 3 days), so it enters and leaves the system much faster than deconate. furthermore, because PP is a relatively short ester, you will also notice your benefits and sides much faster than with the deca ester.
I have used both a few times and have found I like Npp more for my self and the way my body reacts to it. the sides are lower and recovery is faster for me
Benefits of NPP compared to Deca for me
a.) Little to no water retention
b.) Instant lubrication of joints, and pain-relief to injection sites.
c.) Fast acting
d.) Compound clears system only a couple of days after secession of use; and does not leave you terribly shut down for prolonged periods of time like deca.
e.) IMO faster recovery of the HPTA after cycle , because of ^^
Downfalls of NPP compared to Deca
a.) Often a need for more frequent injections
b.) Sometimes can be painful injections
Im 25 5' 9 starting weight befor first cycle was 202 bf 8-9%. cycle #1 test c 250 2x per wk for 12 wks on wk 5 now. no bloat. acually im more ripped now than before cycle at 208. im just looking for lean mass gains. im taking it slow and steady got a few more test cycles before I add anything else. just getting as much info as possible.
you said you have experience with npp, what would you dose it at per wk for a first time user of this compound?
you would have to list your stats goals and cycle history then I can help you more
cdaddy7Excellent breakdown brother +1
yeah that's what i keep reading. Im really leaning towards npp as of right now, thanks for the reply.
also is caber or bromo better
caber