posted Mon, 08/19/2013 - 11:02
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Keeping anabolic steroid gains
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Is it possible to keep most of your gains when you cycle off steroids? how long do you have to cycle off ? and what process do you have to go through after your last pin to start recovery of keeping your gains and preventing side affects ...thanks to all who respond
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you will lose it ALL and some...its just a temporary gain. you might keep some for a while but eventually it will all vanish and that's a fact. name me one ex professional bodybuilder now retired who as any size at all..If you think you can keep the gains or have been told you can keep the gains then u have been miss-informed.its all fluid retention which will eventually vanish.
Maybe in the long run if you stop eating/working out they will fade but I ran one cycle, one PCT and I didn't lose all my gains. I lost size/weight but I was def carrying some water weight. Like mentioned, if people follow PCT as recommended by vets around here, keep training/eating right those gains will stick around.
The mind fuck coming off will make you think you're smaller and weaker, making you believe all gains have been lost. When the fog clears, you will see that is not true.
far from the truth bro, the people that lose their gains don't run proper pct don't diet and don't train, the reason they are ex bodybuilders is because they don't lift any more, since I started aas ive put on a good amount of size, and havnt lost any!! if I lose a kilo here or there its because of my eating or training!! it depends on your experience and compounds used but if know what your doing it is possible, for example if your smashing anadrol yes you will lose the fluid but if used correctly and cycled properly with test ais and pcts, you still keep the muscle!!! tissue is tissue water is water!!
AnonTell em bro
Well I haven't done steroids..this will b my 1st cycle but I have lift weights off and on for 12yrs..I pulled my hamstring and I was out for a yr...when I was out I lost quite a bit of gains ..do to my colorie intake and me not lifting for a while but I did build some solid muscle so I guess that's why I did not lose it all ..I think I can't expect to keep all gains if I don't workout and eat...I was just wondering was it the same with me being on steroids.. I just think it would b hard to lose solid muscle unless u just don't eat nothing... I see guys with big arms and a big belly that don't work out any more.. They kept the size on their arms but the belly is their because of poor diet and not exercising .. Well I'm basically talking natural.. Maybe it's different with steroids..idk ..that's why I am here but I can't imagine that it would be that much different with diet and exercise..
The biggest part of the whole struggle for me is the Pct blues then powering through for a couple months afterwards. I've found if I take little time off, really focus on my diet and my training. I like to grab a pre workout after my PcT to give me a little lift in the gym as well. If your against a pre workout no worries, coffee works well! Good luck my friend, keep training hard!
AnonDude its totaly possible i only lost 2lbs and lost no inches in muscle went from 176 to 192 but now im 195 2months later so as long as ur PCT is intelligent and not just clomid and nolvadex ull be str8 check out my successful pct post to give u an idea
what other compounds , Share w/ us.. DAA?
AnonDAA is ok but u can get that from asparagus
Anonhttp://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/my-successful...
Heres my post bro its all there i state all ingredients towards the bottom as a reply
Hey do you think I can add you as a friend so I can pm you about some pct tips??
AnonYea bro hit me up dont listen to these unexperienced no knowledge twerps
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Do you have any known diagnosed drug allergies? Do you have your pre-cycle labs, yet? You will keep some gains, but not all. You should be off AAS the length of cycle time, plus PCT time. In the middle of your cycle get labs drawn, again. Then, six weeks after PCT has ended, get your labs drawn, again. You need to research here on eroids the PCT dosage for Tamoxifen citrate. Furthermore, you need one more med for correct PCT, if you want to keep some of your gains. Your home work is to find out the other medication, as well as, dosage for Tamoxifen citrate, and post it before you start your cycle. In addition, the process that you have to go through after your last injection is 18 days of working, waiting, eating, lifting and sleeping, while knowing for a fact that the testosterone level is slightly dropping. On that 19th day, PCT starts. As far as side effects and adverse reactions go, everyone is different. You may react different to AAS and PCT meds when compared to another person. So, research, research, research, and be ready to dose your AI, inject your muscles, weigh yourself, and check your BF%. We look forward to hearing from you.
well what i do know is that im gonna do a cycle of test E 500mg split mon. and thurs 250mg, i know im going to take a AI during the cycle to keep estrogen levels down , i know im definitely going to take nolvadex during my pct for a month to 6weeks after my cycle.. the dosage i dont know i just need a reference point ..alot of this stuff i will have to adjust anyway to fit my body during a cycle..im sure u and alot of people that started out had to do this also, im 34yrs old Ive been lifting for 12 yrs natural, im 5'11 1/2 208 pds with about 16% bodyfat 18 1/2 inch arms..its kinda high but i havent been dieting lately but i will on my cycle...man i just think im maxed out on what i can do naturally.. i see this young kids come in with no experience in the gym or their body and do pretty good..im sure u have to use some kind of common sense... when i started lifting i weigh 140 pounds and in 6yrs i got up to 215 natural..i had to force myself to eat food and learn what puts on mass on my body and how to lose weight and keep muscle just all kinds of crazy stuff.. i dont know alot about anabolics but thats why im here..ive been on other steroid forms for months until i saw this 1..when i start my cycle and during my cycle im going to still ask questions but thank u for your concern i definitely have and will continue my research..im just looking for some options or opinions on what i have so far
i used insulin and t3, i kept most of my gains but put on some fat in the process, other bodybuilders use peptides as a way to keep the ball rolling .
Im planning eating clean... the party is over..going back to 6 meals a day veggies and high protein and water..i just need to know what compounds i should take with test E im fine taking it alone because i never did this before so i just want to keep it simple i guess im just not sure when to start my pct or the dosage , how long my cycle should be or what AI i should take or dosage to keep estrogen down, or if i should add a kick start com[pound like anavar ,proviron to keep bloat down ...just dont want no major side affects like crazy mood swings ,gyno or hairloss
If you don't want mood swings, gyno or hair loss you probably shouldn't do steroids because the risk is there among many, many others. Do more research.
dude, go read the forums, read them and read them again, but without being rude or nasty, your not ready yet no where near, your questions clearly state that! you have no knowledge what so ever, and nobody will just lay it out for you and say do this!!! you have to have some kind of an idea before even considering!!! I researched for years and years before taking the plunge, and even now still researching daily!! it is a big decision is what im saying, please research!!!
Depends what your using and how your diet is