First Cycle Problems - No Gains, Sexual Problems...Any Advice?
Hi guys, this is my first cycle and I tried to be well prepared after a lot of reading, searching, and more reading.
Stats:
Age: 40 (don't look 40 
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Weight: 185+
Height 6'1"
Working out for ~2 yrs already
-Clean diet, plenty of water, good (effective) routines regularly at gym, going easy on the alchohol
-Have increased caloric intake, now at 3000+ calories/day plenty of protein and carbs, eaten throughout day
-No sexual problems before, great libido and sexual function before
First cycle (bought from well-rated top supplier found here on Eroids):
- I'm on WEEK 5 of 250mg Test E x 2/week
- .8mg Letro every other day (2.5mg tablet split into 3rds), Nolva every other day 20mg
- No gyno symptoms
The problems I'm seeing are both hardness in erections (difficult to get, and won't last when I stop) and also prolonged ejaculation...WAY too hard to get off. Also libido seems down.
Primarily I don't seem to be making the great gains I would expect like everyone else's first cycle. Weight seems almost the same and the same (normal, slow) strength gains as before even after an obviously effective workout.
I've been working out with a friend and changing routines and definitely can feel the effectiveness. I push myself hard, no half-assing it!
I took a basic female hormone panel test before starting and will get another this week to compare.
Any ideas? This is really frustrating and has me concerned and a little bit embarassed. I would really appreciate your help. Thanks!
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Thanks for your comments, that helps a lot!! I really appreciate it.
Yeah every one has you covered.. there is absolutely no need for letro on 500mg of test a week.. The only thing I would be careful with is when you drop the letro and swap AI's make sure you don't have any REBOUND which letro is notorious for!! In your case maybe keep the nolva going with a LOW 10mg taper an extra week while you adjust to your new AI just to avoid any slight chances of rebound.
Just my two cents
I'll bear that in mind, gracias
Also this would be a good time to get blood work done about a week after your on the new AI.. you can find your sweet spot with what ever AI you're on.. It's worth it in the long run.. you'll make better gains and over all be in a better mood for future cycles
RustyhookerLetro and nolva. Someone gave you HORRIBLE advice. You should cyberslap them loudly.
Stop the letro/nolva BS immediatly. Find adex or aromasin and use when estro begins to appear. Low Dose!
Estro gone will cease all gains. And kill sex.
Whats your PCT since some bonehead advised your ai to stop your gains and ruin your life?
^this^^^
For PCT it was the graduated (start high first, then reduce) Nolvadex/clomid for several weeks after stopping Test E for 2 weeks. If you have better advice I'd love to know.
Clomid
100/100/50/50
Nolva
40/40/20/20
Right?
RustyhookerHigh five!
Yes that's what I had seen and planned to follow.
I'm stopping the Letro & Nolva immediately.
RustyhookerTest e is full banging in your system so as soon as estro rises don't be suprised if you're a stud in bed again. People freak on estro but it's necessary for so many functions. Joint lube, sex, water gain that raises gains, skin, etc. It's high estro where nipples can have issues that folks don't need.
Letro is great as emergency gyno control. You've felt its power, so save it incase of emergency.
You're on week 5 so with adex or aromasin wait til estro signs pop up. I get hard nips...normal. Nips feel like titty twister, soreness, etc....then start the ai. Usually a blood test at week 6 helps but we know you're crashed. Nice low cycles are usually easy to feel your way thru.
Keep us updated!!
Adex... .25e3d.....if nips sore then .25eod.....if still sore .5eod and find aromasin. Some folks dont respond to ai....called a non-responder. Adex is typically nice on a light cycle.
Run your ai up to pct AS/IF needed. In pct the nolva will nipple block and send signals to wake up nuts. Climid is your nutty wakeup call thru different channels.
That was very helpful & I really appreciate it.
RustyhookerIn future just pist cycles and goals. Folks will help. I don't post mine so a new dude doesn't try a complex cycle....but i too ask the vets for help. Even if it's just to double check. Get the most out of it in a safe manner and you'll have many years to grow.
Good info bro +1
Looks good bro. Just need to stop the letro and nolva, then get some aromasin and run 6.25mg everyday or if you prefer 12.5mg every other day. Problem solved
Letro kills ALL Estro; its mainly for when you are at the point of almost no return with Gyno or taking 1000mg of test among other beauties per week. Letro kills 100% Arimidex kills 70%.
Thanks...things seem to make more sense now.
56tooRight about now is when that test is gonna be kicking in. Why are you taking letro and nolva? The dose of test you're pinning is a relatively small dose which , unless you're prone to gyno shouldn't be needed at all. The body NEEDS estro to grow. You wipe out your estro you also wipe out your gains.Low estro will cause you problems just as much as high estro
That's interesting, thanks a lot.
AnonI see ur problem from a mile away to much Letro and why the fuck are u using nolvadex on cycle when u got a strong ass Ai like letro.
Do more research on dosing the letro
No sex drive cuz u demolished ur Estrodoil
Thanks- It seemed from the example first cycles I read about like the anti-Estrogens were almost mandatory. Really interesting.
I'll stop those and see what happens. And I'll read more about letro.
Exactly and try adex or aromasin might work better for u on cycle
Seconded on the Aromasin. It's more expensive, but it's a LOT more forgiving. You can keep the dosage pretty high to keep estrogen in check, but it won't fuck up your sex drive nor bother your joints and lipid profile.
Aromasin is the best, if you don't mind spending.
I'll check it out, thanks! That helps a lot.
Correctamondo on the aromisin. I think he should be using Arimidex .25 eod but with that small amount of test each week he should only use the arimidex if he starts to bloat or has the itchy bitchy titty sensation coming on.
AnonAgreed man Arimi for .25 e2-3d and im good no bloat very horny
Letro is just overkill
^^ this guy is correct
AnonIve never used letro so i dont know the adequete dosage but i jnow how it works its a noncompetitive Ai
Do u kno how to use it so u can tell this guy?
I only use Letro if my Gino flares up really bad ill use 2.5 mg for a week and then it's gone, for my ai I use either adex or aro so far I seem to like aro better I'm running it at 12.5 mg a day and am not having any estrogen problems proviron has also helped me tremendously