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I'm a long time lifter, finally giving a cycle a try. I have cyp 250/ml and deca 250/ml with PCT of -covid and Clen Gummy bears

How many weeks would be recommended to run the Cyp/Deca before starting the PCT?

Thanks in advance for the help

wlh3's picture

thank you all for the great and comprehensive advice. I'll run the Cip only and see how I progress. Much appreciated

Christophany's picture

Bro, try a weekly 4-500mg dosing schedule of testosterone cypionate for a total of 12-14 weeks. I sound like a broken record that repeats what everyone else in the comments section has already stated, but it is true -- you don't even know how your body will respond to a supraphysiological dose of testosterone. Why would you want to use multiple substances? What if you have a bad reaction, be it physical or psychological, and you are unable to distinguish what is causing it? Is it the testosterone? Is it the deca? Why on earth would you use clen? I have run multiple cycles and not once have I used clen. You definitely do not need that shit either.

You have 3 choices:

1) You can take everyone's advice and a run a testosterone-only cycle

2) You can ignore everyone and do what you want to do, irrespective of their advice, as you are already dead set on using all the compounds you listed

3) You can continue to take your TRT as prescribed by your doctor, and you can forgo a cycle altogether

The only option I would not choose, if the choice were mine to make, is option #2. But again, this is merely advise based on experience. You can take it or leave it. I am only sharing my opinion that I think option #2 would be a bad decision.

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CRAZY DOSER's picture

CYPIONATE is more than enough for the first cycle.

Rosschestzip's picture

I really wanna know who’s giving out the pct advice with clen? This is the second post I’ve seen with it. And there’s really no way to think that up on your own, there’s no reason you would think to add that in, so someone has to be recommending it,

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23Sparta's picture

Take the brand name out of your post

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infern0's picture

First cycle do test only to see how your body reacts , PCT have on hand Nolvadex, clomid or enclomiphene(less sides more expensive), you can also add HCG on cycle or before pct and always have an AI preferably aromasin(exemastane) on hand, you can run a cycle anywhere from 12-15 weeks , for more pct info check this out https://www.eroids.com/forums/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/simple-pct-...

wlh3's picture

thank you for this.

i have been on cip for about 3 years for trt, does that make a difference?

LuceAniss's picture

I believe I’m the guy inferno is referencing. I just started my first cycle and it’s 500mg a week. I’m pinning 3 times a week. I think people recommend just doing a test only cycle the first time since every cycle after that you’ll be using some dosage of test and the idea is that we learn how to manage our e2 by running test by itself the first time. And seeing how for example 500mg a week will affect us. It’s hard to tell how it does if we take something else with it. Although to be fair and for full transparency lol I do plan on adding anavar towards the end of my cycle if all is going well with the 500 a week.

wlh3's picture

curious to know how things went with your anavar? I am almost 8 weeks in with 500 cip weekly, it's been ok, nothing earth shattering.

LuceAniss's picture

I haven’t added the anavar yet. I was planning on adding it at towards the last 4-6 weeks of the cycle. The cycle is due to end on Christmas.

For full transparency though I decided to add deca and mast about a month ago and it’s been nothing short of amazing so far lol. I ran 500mg solo for about 5 weeks and then added the other two compounds because I felt comfortable with being able to manage any possible side effects. So I’ve been on 500 test 300 deca and 300 mast, which is probably overkill for my experience level but I’m loving it so far. About to get bloodwork done in the next week or so just to make sure everything still looks good. This will be my third time getting labs since I started this cycle.

wlh3's picture

very nice. so you're happy with the results and with how you're feeling?

With your anavar, what were you planning on taking for on cycle support?

infern0's picture

You mean cypionate? I’d still recommend you experimenting with test only maybe a dose of 500mg leave the deca. If you see the other post a guy is in a similar situation as you, he’s on TRT and planning to run a 15-20 week cycle.

If you’re on TRT you don’t need to run PCT since you will just go back to ur TRT dose after a Blast. Also make sure you do blood work before , during and after. And keep an eye on your HCT.