posted Wed, 03/06/2013 - 08:32
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Epistane/havoc?
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For those who have ran it, is it true it can give the same results as anavar? Was thinking about using it instead of var if this is true because var is expensive as fuck. Post ur epi experience please!
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cornfedjthi wasnt impressed withepi ive got far better results with hdrol.
The sweet spot for epi IMHO is 60 mg ed for 5-6 weeks. And make sure you run it with something that helps with the dry joints. You can get the same results with tbol or hdrol and avoid the joint issues. My next cycle is test/npp with a SD kick and Epi backload. Should be sick. Hello 25+ lbs of lbm
im running epistane right now @ 60mg/day. Strength gains have been decent, up about 5-10% on most lifts, pumps are great. I had planned to run it for 6 weeks but will be ending it at 4 weeks as the sides are getting to be a little much. lethargy, troubles sleeping, joints are getting achey and several headaches, none of those sides are unbearable, id just rather not deal with them if I dont have to.
I ran a 6 wk cycle of epi at 30mg/d. Gave me great vascularity and made my skin look paper thin. Gave me creaky joints though. Recommend to run with liver and joint support. Be aware that alot of people don't respond to Epi for some reason. If nothing is happening after a couple of weeks I would consider yourself a non-responder to it. Haven't tried var yet but I think I will this summer.
AnonYea I have also read that, I guess I will just have to try it out and see how I respond, or stick to halodrol that works well for me
Better yet, just drop the PH's and load up on test.
AnonI'm using it to backload a test e cycle
WithdrawlEpi reminded me of winstrol. Used it 30mg a day for six weeks. Took a couple weeks to kick in. Good pumps and got a real dry look but my shoulder and knee joints were cracking like crazy. I did experience some hair thinning on Epi and I've never had that with any other oral I've used.
AnonI forgot about the hair loss that people report. How did the strength gains from epi compare to winstrol?
WithdrawlAbout the same. Nothing real dramatic. The cracking joints didn't make me want to go super heavy. I saw above that you've been using halodrol. If you like halodrol, I think you'll really like Turanabol (Tbol). Tbol is the poor man's anavar. Good strength gains, pumps, and fullness similar to dbol, except without the bloat. Halodrol is actually a clone of Tbol also.
AnonYea I know I've been meaning to try tbol since I get such good results from halodrol. I would like to see how I react to it and compare them
In my personal experience epistane produces better gains. Anavar ran at high doses might produce some killer gains but is waaay too expensive. Epistane is more liver toxic than anavar so make sure to run proper support.
Agreed... dollar for dollar, you get more with Epi.
AnonWat dose did u run it at to get better gains than from var? How was the vascularity and strength on epi?
I ran epistane at 30mg Ed for 4 weeks. The strength was descent like 10lbs per lift. And vascularity wasn't as good as var. I ran var at 80mg Ed for 8 weeks and the pumps were bigger no strength gain for me and huge vascularity. Some people get really good strength gains from var. it really depends on the user. But cost wise is all I'm basing this off. If I had enough money to run var at high doses Ed I would choose that over epi any day.